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So, you are saying that the people involved in those events fall under "and has done nothing positive".
If you are saying that some of the people involved were motivated by reasons that were not patriotic, you would be right. But to know which you would have to be a mind reader or you would have to know their lives otherwise.
But I am certain that those events were driven by patriotic feelings because we have their writings and know their actions from historical events that they certainly were not to be called "and has done nothing positive.
1. Wouldn't you say that whether their actions were viewed as negative or positive would depend on one's viewpoint at the time. There were many Loyalists in the colonies.
2. There's a difference between the leaders and the followers. I imagine many of the followers were simply up to no good.
I am sick of military personnel being used as props at sporting events. I do not give a rip who stands, sits or picks their nose at events where professional athletes who are paid far more than most of the people who watch them. If the military people participate voluntarily then ok, but if they are required to do it then I say humbug! We have turned the flag into an advertising gimmick. Note the big flags at car lots. We have turned the anthem into a screeching noise sung by someone who cannot get it right no matter how many extra notes they squeeze in (apologies to musicians who understand the process). We have a warped sense of patriotism. For me it usually comes down to "rich man's war and poor man's fight". That is the patriotism I see going on. Humbug on that one too.
Having served in the military for over 20 years, I have no issue whatsoever with these displays during the anthem. I don't find it demeaning to my service one bit. Just as I don't find it demeaning by those millions who don't believe in the military or those that serve. Peaceful protest is one of the things that makes this country unique.
What I find offensive is the playing of the anthem before sporting events at all. Why are we one, if not the only, country in the world that does this? The anthem should not be used to glorify games where a select, talented few are immortalized, glorified and paid obscene amounts of money to entertain the masses.
I've notice that when it comes to veterans not all of them have the same idea of patriotism and many don't have the same 'Murica' right or wrong "wavin' muh gun and muh flag everywhere" idea of patriotism that you see from some civilians nowdays. What I find interesting about this is you have folks here who have never served getting offended on behalf of veterans. Many of whom who really aren't offended by the protests.
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I am sick of military personnel being used as props at sporting events. I do not give a rip who stands, sits or picks their nose at events where professional athletes who are paid far more than most of the people who watch them. If the military people participate voluntarily then ok, but if they are required to do it then I say humbug! We have turned the flag into an advertising gimmick. Note the big flags at car lots. We have turned the anthem into a screeching noise sung by someone who cannot get it right no matter how many extra notes they squeeze in (apologies to musicians who understand the process). We have a warped sense of patriotism. For me it usually comes down to "rich man's war and poor man's fight". That is the patriotism I see going on. Humbug on that one too.
And you've hit the nail on the head. Marketers have used this shallow patriotism as an opportunity to sell pins, ribbons, flags and other American branded memorabilia. Patriotism has become commercialized just like much of everything else in American society. You would think that would be more troubling to the e-patriots we have here on C-D then not standing before the flag.
Hmmm... Is it unpatriotic? I would say no, its freedom of speech... perhaps it's a bit of a gray area when it's done while being paid by a private employer though. Even then, just because you have free speech doesn't mean that people can't ridicule you or your words/actions
Now what is wrong with Lewis liking the owner of the Ravens? They don't see color. That's a good thing. :-)
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