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These supposedly humane forms of execution aren’t for the benefit of the criminal but for the benefit of the feelings of society. We wish to kill criminals but we don’t want to feel violent, we don’t want to hurt them and we are too squeamish to see any blood. Thus quick and painless killing by beheading or shooting is out the window and we come up with complicated and cockamamie methods of killing such as electric chairs, gas chambers, lethal injection (a euphemism for poisoning) and now this nitrogen business.
If we really were concerned about killing humanely it would be done quickly and efficiently, the way hanging was done in the UK.
I think the real concern is to create litigatible issues; another front in the war against real punishment for serious crime. There is an erosion of faith and belief in the social order.
These supposedly humane forms of execution aren’t for the benefit of the criminal but for the benefit of the feelings of society. We wish to kill criminals but we don’t want to feel violent, we don’t want to hurt them and we are too squeamish to see any blood.
I think it's more a matter of being willing to accept being executioners, but not torturers.
What's inhumane is expecting doctors to administer lethal injections or non-medical people trying to do the deed with no skills - the whole thing is a mess.
What's inhumane is expecting doctors to administer lethal injections or non-medical people trying to do the deed with no skills - the whole thing is a mess.
Renee, let’s go farther and call a spade a spade: what’s inhumane is expecting doctors to poison people.
What's inhumane is expecting doctors to administer lethal injections or non-medical people trying to do the deed with no skills - the whole thing is a mess.
The way firing squads used to work was that several people were to shoot at the criminal; one had an empty chamber. That way no one could be certain as to whether they killed someone. In the Bible death was by stoning. None of the stones, by themselves, killed the person so no one could be certain they had personally done the deed.
Having worked for over 20 plus years in the industrial gas and chemicals industry, I can assure you that “it” (execution using nitrogen displacement of air) would be safe, economical, and very effective. Regardless of what you have read above, it would not require enough pure nitrogen to place anyone (spectators, executioners, or anyone else) in any danger. Nitrogen is already 80% of the air we breathe, so any so called leakage would simply instantly become part of the atmosphere. The chamber necessary for a person to be executed could be relatively small. It would only need to cover their head. One standard sized cylinder of compressed nitrogen is all that would be necessary for an execution. Nitrogen could be introduced via an inlet valve run by a computer program. It would be set to push nitrogen through the inlet valve at around 20 psig. A pressure relief valve set at 15 psig would move the air/nitrogen in the small chamber out through a vent to the roof. All very simple and cheap. All kinds of bureaucrats and so called experts would try to overly complicate the process. An emergency room vital systems heart monitor would indicate physical death. The only things preventing the use of nitrogen as an asphyxiant for safe economical capital punishment are all political and ignorance related.
The way firing squads used to work was that several people were to shoot at the criminal; one had an empty chamber. That way no one could be certain as to whether they killed someone.
Not one rifle with an empty chamber. That would make it obvious which rifle didn't fire. It's one rifle with a blank round, so nobody is sure which rifle held the blank.
Not one rifle with an empty chamber. That would make it obvious which rifle didn't fire. It's one rifle with a blank round, so nobody is sure which rifle held the blank.
Having worked for over 20 plus years in the industrial gas and chemicals industry, I can assure you that “it” (execution using nitrogen displacement of air) would be safe, economical, and very effective. Regardless of what you have read above, it would not require enough pure nitrogen to place anyone (spectators, executioners, or anyone else) in any danger. Nitrogen is already 80% of the air we breathe, so any so called leakage would simply instantly become part of the atmosphere. The chamber necessary for a person to be executed could be relatively small. It would only need to cover their head. One standard sized cylinder of compressed nitrogen is all that would be necessary for an execution. Nitrogen could be introduced via an inlet valve run by a computer program. It would be set to push nitrogen through the inlet valve at around 20 psig. A pressure relief valve set at 15 psig would move the air/nitrogen in the small chamber out through a vent to the roof. All very simple and cheap. All kinds of bureaucrats and so called experts would try to overly complicate the process. An emergency room vital systems heart monitor would indicate physical death. The only things preventing the use of nitrogen as an asphyxiant for safe economical capital punishment are all political and ignorance related.
I get what you’re saying here, but this is all very unnecessary. The most humane method of ending a condemned persons life is a bullet to the brain. It is immediate, there is no suffering(for those who concern themselves with such),and it is the most inexpensive method available.
Why make this any harder than it has to be?
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