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Old 03-21-2018, 03:16 PM
 
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It certainly isn't without precedent:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods

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Operation Northwoods was a proposed false flag operation against the Cuban government that originated within the U.S. Department of Defense (DoD) and the Joint Chiefs of Staff (JCS) of the United States government in 1962. The proposals called for the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) or other U.S. government operatives to commit acts of terrorism against American civilians and military targets, blaming it on the Cuban government, and using it to justify a war against Cuba. The plans detailed in the document included the possible assassination of Cuban émigrés, sinking boats of Cuban refugees on the high seas, hijacking planes, blowing up a U.S. ship, and orchestrating violent terrorism in U.S. cities.[2] The proposals were rejected by the Kennedy administration.
With the collapse of the SU, the U.S needed another "bad guy" to drop its panties over and make money. Our government is completely corrupt top to bottom with most politicians not caring about killing innocent people if it makes them money and helps them out in some way. So honestly, even if the government didn't plan 9/11, I could easily see them finding out and thinking "Hmm...If we let this go through it'll give us all the ammo we need to pass as much draconian measures we want and a great excuse to make big money off the war industry".
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Old 03-21-2018, 03:22 PM
 
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Here's a great video explaining Operation Northwoods, with a link to the pdf of the government doc itself. But don't plan on many posters bothering to even investigate this. Even though there is evidence such as gov't docs.

Look at number 11: Conduct mock funerals.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5rBc4GS06s
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Old 03-22-2018, 04:07 AM
 
Location: 912 feet above sea level
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"Is it really unbelievable that you beat your wife?"

Whether or not it is unbelievable, the 'argument' - like your 'argument' - lacks an an evidentiary basis. Sure, it's conceivable. It's conceivable that Elvis faked his death, that Barack Obama is a shape-shifting alien, that Donald Trump tortures kittens in his spare time. But the conceivability of something does nothing, absolutely nothing, to demonstrate that such a thing occurred or occurs.

You are engaging in the well-worn technique of Just Asking Questions.

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Just asking questions (also known as JAQing off) is a way of attempting to make wild accusations acceptable (and hopefully not legally actionable) by framing them as questions rather than statements. It shifts the burden of proof to one's opponent; rather than laboriously having to prove that all politicians are reptoid scum, one can pull out one single odd piece of evidence and force the opponent to explain why the evidence is wrong.
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Just_asking_questions
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Old 03-22-2018, 08:39 AM
 
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There's so much nonsense floating around these days, esp. in conspiracy-theory circles. Just say no to JAQing off.
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Old 03-22-2018, 10:09 AM
 
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So what if Northwoods was an actual plan? The point is, Kennedy put the kibosh on it. That's all that matters. The same people pushed him to provoke a war with Russia, but he very sensibly nixed that, too, and found a better solution to the missile crisis.
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Old 03-22-2018, 10:12 AM
 
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So what if Northwoods was an actual plan? The point is, Kennedy put the kibosh on it. That's all that matters. The same people pushed him to provoke a war with Russia, but he very sensibly nixed that, too, and found a better solution to the missile crisis.
I would say that is NOT all that matters. The fact of the operation existing in the first place is very pertinent.
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Old 03-22-2018, 09:04 PM
 
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So what if Northwoods was an actual plan? The point is, Kennedy put the kibosh on it. That's all that matters. The same people pushed him to provoke a war with Russia, but he very sensibly nixed that, too, and found a better solution to the missile crisis.
It's a plan that was on the books .. and is NOT taught in HS. IT considers having MOCK victims and MOCK funerals. Yet people who suggest crisis actors are wacko????

THE GOVT CREATED THE IDEA OF CRISIS ACTORS.
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Old 03-23-2018, 08:25 AM
 
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This is a moonbat theory that's right up there with the one that suggests men didn't land on the moon. In the case of the moon landing hoaxsters, you have dilettantes who don't know much about film and video production becoming self-anointed experts on film and video production.

If the United States government really wanted to launch a lemminglike crusade against global terrorism, don't you think they would have found a way to do it in not such a costly and risky way? I mean, all they would have had to do is detonate a small dirty bomb 100 miles out to sea in a freighter, tell America how it was accidently detonated and how the country came within a whisker of having a major coastal city nuked, and get precisely the same effect.
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Old 03-23-2018, 11:55 AM
 
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The government played a part no matter which mechanism/theory you embrace. If it was just a bunch of Islamists with box cutters then the government is responsible, since the government imported them in here. Why'd they do that?

If it was a false flag they were ALSO responsible.
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Old 03-24-2018, 10:18 AM
 
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Some people cannot even entertain the idea, that their own Govt may be involved in such a thing, its just not possible mentally for them. It has something to do with being overly conditioned, I believe there is actually a term for this.

MK Ultra is a great example...if anyone had suggested back in the 1980s the govt was secretly experimenting on people, even kids, doing all kinds of bizarre tests, majority of people would have called that crazy and not possible....of course today we know for a FACT this really did happen, there were numerous sub-projects, ranging from developing telekinesis to having someone under mind control carry out assassinations!! This also shows some of the things our govt was interested in developing, so maybe a couple decades later, when we start seeing a lot of mass shootings, by 'lonewolf' gunman, maybe there is more to this than it appears?

Any skeptics of this should do some reading on how and why the term 'conspiracy theory(ist)' has been used by the CIA, its really interesting to see what this term was initially created for...hint, those that are REALLY wearing the 'tinfoil' hat are those that DO NOT recognize the deception and believe what Govt tells you.
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