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Old 03-22-2018, 06:27 PM
 
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also, mike1003, with drug addiction comes a lot of crime. robberies, burglaries, etc. could affect all of us eventually, even you.
Then apply the money to fight crime

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Old 03-22-2018, 06:28 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Why do you make it about death? It's not just about people dying from drug abuse, it's also the crime, suffering, grief, homelessness etc in between.

Although I agree that throwing money at the problem is ineffective.
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Old 03-22-2018, 06:52 PM
 
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Why do you make it about death? It's not just about people dying from drug abuse, it's also the crime, suffering, grief, homelessness etc in between.

Although I agree that throwing money at the problem is ineffective.
Death stats were the only concrete numbers that I could find to put a picture on this
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Old 03-22-2018, 06:57 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Ten apply the money to fight crime
it's almost impossible to fight crimes like robberies. police can't be everywhere.

most people who do those types of drugs and crimes just end up in jail, where it also costs lots of taxpayer money.

the problem with 'throwing money' at the situation is that, in my opinion, it's not thrown at the right issues.

there is a certain percentage of people who are truly mentally ill and can't afford treatment when they need it, so they self-medicate. then there are people who just need a decent job and a chance to live a good life. the lure of easy money dealing drugs (and using them) can be seen as the only way to that good life.

so, it all depends on how this money will be used.
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Old 03-23-2018, 08:21 AM
 
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Drugs keeps getting worse and worse. Everything we've been told will work, doesn't. Expert opinion is no better than the man on the street.

As one of the latter, I say let them go. They've made their choice. If they commit crimes against people or property jail them. Otherwise, ignore them.
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Old 03-23-2018, 10:51 AM
 
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it's almost impossible to fight crimes like robberies. police can't be everywhere.

most people who do those types of drugs and crimes just end up in jail, where it also costs lots of taxpayer money.

the problem with 'throwing money' at the situation is that, in my opinion, it's not thrown at the right issues.

there is a certain percentage of people who are truly mentally ill and can't afford treatment when they need it, so they self-medicate. then there are people who just need a decent job and a chance to live a good life. the lure of easy money dealing drugs (and using them) can be seen as the only way to that good life.

so, it all depends on how this money will be used.
So, we waste our resources to stop a problem that we can't stop instead of finding cures for illnesses that are getting closer to be curable?
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Old 03-23-2018, 11:02 AM
 
Location: Tucson/Nogales
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Let's get down to the source of drug usage, why people turn to drugs/spirits in the first place, in a spiritually bankrupt country like the U.S.

Many unemployed or underemployed people today have given up hope, they're in despair, extremely depressed, suicidal, so let's tackle that problem and then the drug usage will abate on its own.
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Old 03-23-2018, 12:35 PM
 
Location: Saint John, IN
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Money for more anti drug education in schools I agree with, but as the OP stated there are much better uses for money! Find a cure for cancer or heart disease, etc! Drug addictions are preventable whereas most cancers ultimately are not.
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Old 03-23-2018, 04:49 PM
 
Location: Minnysoda
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Ever heard of the narco/law enforcement industrial complex?
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Old 03-23-2018, 04:52 PM
 
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Ever heard of the narco/law enforcement industrial complex?
This. If they ever did succeed in "getting drugs off the streets" the gravy train of federal law enforcement grants and civil asset forfeitures would grind to a screeching halt. All the drug-warriors would have to find a job. Which is why nobody is interested in pursuing policies that actually solve the problem.
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