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Old 09-20-2018, 11:34 AM
 
Location: Central IL
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In salaried jobs people will just be asked to do their same 40 hour workload in 30 hours...just like they've been asked to absorb the work of layed off colleagues. At some point the straw will break the camel's back.

Everyone realizes the economy is not based on manufacturing any more, right?
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Old 09-20-2018, 12:20 PM
 
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I think we have a better chance of getting universal healthcare than this.
Americans are workaholics. When vacation in America is what it is, when the leave for giving birth is 6 weeks only working 30 hrs per week seems a far fetched dream.
The workaholic situation is not a choice though. Its the result of the overwhelming power corporate America have over workers, sadly. https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/...n_5736912.html

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Americans overwhelmingly support the idea of requiring large U.S. employers to provide their workers with at least some paid vacation time, according to a new HuffPost/YouGov poll.

In a poll conducted ahead of Labor Day, 75 percent of respondents said they believe in placing such a mandate upon the business community. A mere 17 percent said they oppose it. The support crossed party lines to include 87 percent of self-identified Democrats and 65 percent of Republicans.
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Old 09-20-2018, 12:46 PM
 
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The workaholic situation is not a choice though. Its the result of the overwhelming power corporate America have over workers, sadly. https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/...n_5736912.html
Knowing the difference between labor propaganda, which states that American's must love work simply because they work more, and the fact of an authoritative power structure in the workplace shows a rare political maturity, most people go their entire lives drinking the corporate Kool Aid..
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Old 09-20-2018, 01:08 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Crooked union leaders poisoned things for many people both union members and non-members.

Did they ever find Jimmy Hoffa?


A 30 hour week would be more likely to take root if it was started voluntarily by ultra wealthy companies like Google, Apple, Microsoft,etc.
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Old 09-20-2018, 01:22 PM
 
Location: Colorado Springs
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"We" ? Why should we have to do anything?
So you think the best thing for nation is to just let unemployment and underemployment mushroom.
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Old 09-20-2018, 01:30 PM
 
Location: 'greater' Buffalo, NY
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We decide this, through market forces. If businesses and workers naturally agree, it will happen. That is the debating and voting mechanism.
No need to take action when the invisible hand will magically sort everything out!

Tell me, how often is it that employers and employees 'naturally agree' on the conditions of employment?
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Old 09-20-2018, 01:32 PM
 
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Please pause while all of us who were classified as "Exempt" catch our breath. I fell out of my chair at the idea that reducing the official 40 hour work week will result in anything changing in our work week other than reducing our pay by 25%. It certainly won't result in more people being hired.
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Old 09-20-2018, 01:33 PM
 
Location: 'greater' Buffalo, NY
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Business and workers naturally agreeing.

Really?
Lol--I see you and I are on the same page here.

Libertarians (or people who might easily be mistaken for libertarians) tend to live in a dream world.
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Old 09-20-2018, 02:19 PM
 
Location: Tucson/Nogales
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Workaholics, on the other hand, would be more in favor of returning to the days of a 6-day workweek and 12 hours a day!

What would become of the workaholics (workaholics and alcoholics wear the same uniform) with all that free time on their hands?

I've known too many, over the years, who work 2-3 jobs and it's not being performed for monetary reasons, it's being done to prevent them from going Kookoo!
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Old 09-20-2018, 02:56 PM
 
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So you think the best thing for nation is to just let unemployment and underemployment mushroom.
Your point is what? Automating jobs takes a lot of work and engineering. Think of the high paying jobs automation creates such as engineers, programers, and electricans. These jobs typically pay more per year than what a factory worker will make in five years.
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