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Old 03-13-2019, 10:13 AM
 
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Originally Posted by ClaraC View Post
*shrug*

I'm a libertarian, so for legalized prostitution, I just don't think it's admirable at all and it's a symptom of a broken spirit.
Here are some of the countries where prostitution is legal:

New Zealand (Legal since 2003)
Australia (varies by state)
Austria
Bangladesh (although male prostitution is illegal)
Belgium
Brazil
Canada (Prostituting yourself is legal, but buying sex became illegal during the end of 2014.)
Colombia
Denmark
Ecuador
France
Germany
Greece
Indonesia
The Netherlands

And, of course, the USA, which leaves the issue to states. Nevada, of course, has legal brothels on a county-by-county basis; prostitution is legal in licensed brothels but illegal elsewhere.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...hels_in_Nevada
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Old 03-13-2019, 10:13 AM
 
Location: VA, IL, FL, SD, TN, NC, SC
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Given how many people watch porn, I would suggest it is not that people are so much prejudiced by the industry, but rather most people instinctively understand that the majority of porn actors and actresses have a litany of personal issues and make poor life choices that extend far beyond sexuality for hire.
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Old 03-13-2019, 10:19 AM
 
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Its not personal bias as I am directly connected to individuals and I see directly into their lives. I am also not removing the freedom of individual decision from you or anyone else... your view does remove individual choice and decision. Legalization of prostitution only impacts those that make a personal decision to enter into sex work. For those outside of sex work, their personal rights are not impacted whether or not it is legal.

I'm also not trying to impose my personal views on others.... Rights are not a zero sum game. Giving rights to one group does not result in the removal of rights to another.

One thing you don't realize is that people should have the right to make decisions whether or not that decision is "flawed or not". A person's decision to go out and sleep around with strangers is a flawed decision... sure in many peoples' views... but it is still their right to make that choice that is legally protected. Asking for payment as part of that act shouldn't change that legal protection.

Ps. One of the reasons why I don't support street prostitution is that, in that case, it does absolutely impact the community. As long as it is consenting adults and doesn't impact anyone else, what happens behind closed doors should be allowed. No one else is impacted and certainly their rights aren't trampled on.


To the OP,

The basic assumption that sex work is a flawed decision is another example of a view from someone imposing on others.
My point was: legalizing it will change nothing regarding it's perception. People who thinks it's gross, will still think it's gross. People who think it's peachy keen, will still think it's peachy keen.

Whether it's govt approved? Does not matter.

And of course people can do what they want. A woman can be a prostitute, legally or illegally, I can think that's a pathetic and unfortunate way to spend her life. And that opinion? Doesn't make me a prude.
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Old 03-13-2019, 10:20 AM
 
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An interesting poll would be, do people have a more positive opinion of porn actresses and actors or Congress? I suspect people view porn actors and actresses far more positively than both houses of Congress.
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Old 03-13-2019, 10:20 AM
 
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Given how many people watch porn, I would suggest it is not that people are so much prejudiced by the industry, but rather most people instinctively understand that the majority of porn actors and actresses have a litany of personal issues and make poor life choices that extend far beyond sexuality for hire.
Exactly.
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Old 03-13-2019, 10:21 AM
 
Location: A Yankee in northeast TN
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Originally Posted by RationalExpectations View Post
Here are some of the countries where prostitution is legal:

New Zealand (Legal since 2003)
Australia (varies by state)
Austria
Bangladesh (although male prostitution is illegal)
Belgium
Brazil
Canada (Prostituting yourself is legal, but buying sex became illegal during the end of 2014.)
Colombia
Denmark
Ecuador
France
Germany
Greece
Indonesia
The Netherlands

And, of course, the USA, which leaves the issue to states. Nevada, of course, has legal brothels on a county-by-county basis; prostitution is legal in licensed brothels but illegal elsewhere.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...hels_in_Nevada
So in those countries is sex work a viable career choice? Those workers suffer no stigma, they can move onto other careers and lifestyles without having suffered any negative consequences? Parents and spouses of workers don't see any problem with choosing that line of work? Honestly curious as to how that might be viewed in those countries.
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Old 03-13-2019, 10:22 AM
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The Hollywood casting couch, a "venerable" institution in films, should probably be included among the categories.



And in the past fifty years male strippers have become performers in both heterosexual and gay venues. And while there have always been male prostitutes in recent decades that occupation has become much more common and much more open.

As usual - #MeToo being another example - these discussions wear gender blinders.
Male strippers?

Where?

I know in the 80's there were the Chippendales, and they were a novel and a hoot but that died out.

Basically, because women don't want to watch men strip.

Except in cases of bachelorette parties, where it's done as a hilarious lark.
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Old 03-13-2019, 10:25 AM
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I was corrected several times by many (on this forum in fact) that porn literature and romance novels are a form of pornography. The point of porn is to facilitate sexual response... it doesn't matter if it is visual or not.
Right, romance novels are word porn.

The difference here is that word porn doesn't require actors to choose a career that is degrading and disrespected.
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Old 03-13-2019, 10:34 AM
 
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If a woman marries a man because he is wealth, that is normal (by our societies standards).
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Old 03-13-2019, 10:36 AM
 
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An interesting poll would be, do people have a more positive opinion of porn actresses and actors or Congress? I suspect people view porn actors and actresses far more positively than both houses of Congress.
And that doesn't make people think any better of porn stars./shrug/ It's like asking if you want a turd sandwich or a turd wrap. Your opinion really doesn't change by *comparing* the two.
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