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Old 12-20-2008, 12:19 AM
 
Location: The Netherlands
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Originally Posted by YellowHorse
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I'm in no way saying we need to pack everyone into a small area, I thought that was clear enough in the fist line of my post.
My point is that we need land for more than just growing food or space to live on.

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And Chef Boyardee pretty much answered the other question.
Only for as long as we still have fossil fuel can we farm the modern way, but if we can't find an alternative energy source our modern technology will eventually collapse.
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Old 12-20-2008, 01:26 PM
 
Location: PNW native currently residing in the SoCal high desert
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Originally Posted by YellowHorse My point is that we need land for more than just growing food or space to live on.

Only for as long as we still have fossil fuel can we farm the modern way, but if we can't find an alternative energy source our modern technology will eventually collapse.
There is already a switch begining to sustainable agriculture. In sustainable agricultural systems, there is reduced reliance on non-renewable energy sources for a substitution of renewable sources or labor. As the feasability of "modern farming" deminishes, I think sustaiable agriculture will increasingly become the more economicle and acceptable way.
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Old 12-20-2008, 04:46 PM
 
Location: Portsmouth
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To quote HRH Prince Phillip, "when I die, I would like to be reincarnated as a deadly disease, to help with the ever growing problem of over population"
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Old 12-27-2008, 12:30 PM
 
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The Chinese are already getting fat.
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Old 01-03-2009, 11:33 AM
 
Location: Tampa
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Population Estimates Change (http://www.census.gov/popest/states/NST-pop-chg.html - broken link)

it is interesting to see where people are moving. the South and West are exploding.
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Old 01-03-2009, 02:22 PM
 
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How will we know when there are too many people? Are there too many already? Every problem we face today has population growth at its core. We would not all be happy if there were only one person per mile, but there is a limit as to how many bodies we can pile up on this earth. Where is the line between empty and full when is comes to population?
There will NEVER be too many people... there is an endless supply of planets and with our advancing technology, almost any planet will be inhabitable... There is not limit... the only limits are those who decry other people's happiness... they have nothing but misery because people don't live according to how "they" want...
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Old 01-03-2009, 02:24 PM
 
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The Chinese are already getting fat.
Actually the whole world is getting fatter with the exception of probably Africa... they have their own problems they need to overcome before they too get the opportunity to get fat like the rest of the world...
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Old 01-03-2009, 08:52 PM
 
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There will NEVER be too many people... there is an endless supply of planets and with our advancing technology, almost any planet will be inhabitable... There is not limit... the only limits are those who decry other people's happiness... they have nothing but misery because people don't live according to how "they" want...
Ha ha. Are you joking?

We are very, very, very far away from being able to colonize any other planets. It will probabbly be at least a thousand years before we can even do that on Mars.

Where are you getting this stuff?
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Old 01-03-2009, 08:54 PM
 
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Actually the whole world is getting fatter with the exception of probably Africa... they have their own problems they need to overcome before they too get the opportunity to get fat like the rest of the world...
There are poor people living in squalid conditions on absolutey every continent. Africa is not the only place on Earth with these problems. The entire rest of the world is not getting fat. That's just plain wrong.
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Old 01-03-2009, 10:46 PM
 
Location: Cold Frozen North
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Ha ha. Are you joking?

We are very, very, very far away from being able to colonize any other planets. It will probabbly be at least a thousand years before we can even do that on Mars.

Where are you getting this stuff?
With a dedicated effort, we could probably start colonizing Mars in 50 years. Again, it would take a dedicated effort, something not likely to happen given all the present-day crises. Yes, an operation like this will be risky with loss of life likely during the process. But if certain events are forced on you, things can happen quickly. If the US space program hadn't lost its way after the Apollo moon shots ceased in 1972, we would have been to Mars already and likely had a small colony on the moon permanently.
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