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Old 09-25-2008, 11:32 AM
 
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Man or woman Palin would not have the testicals to run america if need be..
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Old 09-25-2008, 11:38 AM
 
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Man or woman Palin would not have the testicals to run america if need be..
I think a more appropriate phrase would be that she doesn't have the intestinal (or intellectual?) fortitude to run America if need be.

I mean, she can't even handle TV interviews and the McCain camp now wants her to not participate in a VP debate.
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Old 09-25-2008, 12:39 PM
 
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I think a more appropriate phrase would be that she doesn't have the intestinal (or intellectual?) fortitude to run America if need be.

I mean, she can't even handle TV interviews and the McCain camp now wants her to not participate in a VP debate.
it's bad when you pick a VP to run with you and you are too ashamed to have her debate for fear her ignorance will show..then you yourself run too... mccain and palin fear obama and with good reason..
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Old 09-25-2008, 01:26 PM
 
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Close your eyes for a moment and imagine what the Republican nominee for VP would mean to you if he was a male with the same record as Mrs. Palin. It paints a very different picture doesn’t it? Suddenly it doesn’t feel like change at all but just more of the same. Suddenly you’re forced to think about what the Governor’s positions on topics really mean- important topics like the soaring costs of; health care, gas, and college tuition. Does this guy even believe in a woman’s right to choose?! The national debt, you remember, still seems outrageous and you wonder what this upstart could or would do about it if the office of President befell him. Then you might wonder, is this guy really qualified, why’d McCain pick him anyway? The issues that face Alaska aren’t anything like the issues that face me or my family!

I’ve heard a lot about discrimination with regards to the Governor of Alaska lately but if you can’t visualize a man garnering even half as much of your attention then who’s the one discriminating?
Oh, you mean like if Obama were white.

Yeah. It makes you think .
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Old 09-25-2008, 01:29 PM
 
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If Obama was white he would still be the best choice available for people who want to move beyond the Bush and Clinton years - moving forward rather than backward.
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Old 09-25-2008, 01:29 PM
 
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If Obama was white he would still be the best choice available for people who want to move beyond the Bush and Clinton years - moving forward rather than backward.
Empty boilerplate.

He wouldn't even have been nominated. And you know it.
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Old 09-25-2008, 01:35 PM
 
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Empty boilerplate.

He wouldn't even have been nominated. And you know it.
You're probably right, but so am I.

Obama is black (or half-black, whatever) and likely still wouldn't have won the nomination if - oh, I don't know - Hillary hadn't been arrogant and acted like she had the nomination in the bag before it was, only to cower in a corner and cry sexism when she didn't get what she thought she was entitled to. Bottom line - nobody is to blame for Hillary losing the nomination but Hillary.

The Republicans are still pining for the Reagan years (of which many see Bush as an extension of, which is an insult to Reagan) and the Democrats are still trying to relive the Clinton years.

It's time to leave the past in the past.
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Old 09-25-2008, 01:36 PM
 
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Your right. No one would care nearly as much. We have a wierd society like that.

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Close your eyes for a moment and imagine what the Republican nominee for VP would mean to you if he was a male with the same record as Mrs. Palin. It paints a very different picture doesn’t it? Suddenly it doesn’t feel like change at all but just more of the same. Suddenly you’re forced to think about what the Governor’s positions on topics really mean- important topics like the soaring costs of; health care, gas, and college tuition. Does this guy even believe in a woman’s right to choose?! The national debt, you remember, still seems outrageous and you wonder what this upstart could or would do about it if the office of President befell him. Then you might wonder, is this guy really qualified, why’d McCain pick him anyway? The issues that face Alaska aren’t anything like the issues that face me or my family!

I’ve heard a lot about discrimination with regards to the Governor of Alaska lately but if you can’t visualize a man garnering even half as much of your attention then who’s the one discriminating?
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Old 09-25-2008, 01:44 PM
 
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You're probably right, but so am I.

Obama is black (or half-black, whatever) and likely still wouldn't have won the nomination if - oh, I don't know - Hillary hadn't been arrogant and acted like she had the nomination in the bag before it was, only to cower in a corner and cry sexism when she didn't get what she thought she was entitled to. Bottom line - nobody is to blame for Hillary losing the nomination but Hillary.

The Republicans are still pining for the Reagan years (of which many see Bush as an extension of, which is an insult to Reagan) and the Democrats are still trying to relive the Clinton years.

It's time to leave the past in the past.

Soon Obama will be in the past, as well. The real question is how he will be remembered: as a qualified candidate ready to lead, or as an affirmative action POTUS.

We all hope for the former, of course. But denying the latter possibility is as indicative of naivete as the unquestioning support of Palin which the OP identified.
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Old 09-25-2008, 01:51 PM
 
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Soon Obama will be in the past, as well. The real question is how he will be remembered: as a qualified candidate ready to lead, or as an affirmative action POTUS.
The question is whether "soon" will be in two months or 4-8 years from now.

Hillary seemed to think she was owed the nomination because A) she had been First Lady and B) she was, well, a lady. And when the going got tough, she played the gender card, saying she wasn't allowed in the "boys' club."

She bounced a slam dunk of a primary off the rim. And the best the Dems had other than Hillary was Barack Obama.

Conversely, the best thing the Republicans have is basically four more years of Bush policies. We know how that's worked out.
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