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Old 11-11-2008, 10:34 AM
 
Location: Ottawa, Canada
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I am not for prostitution but I think it is stupid that the police waste time trying to bust people for prostitution. Don't they have a murderer or someone else who did a real crime to catch.
you cant use that stupid logic here, because do you realize the reaosning you are using is soo messed up?

for example accoridng to you we shoulding eb gettign the people who are charged for fraud cause the police should be"concentrating of the real criminals liek rapists"

or that cops shouldnt be concerned with dangerous drivers, cause the "real criminals like pedophiles are out there". see how that doesnt work?
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Old 11-11-2008, 11:08 AM
 
Location: Aiken S.C
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How long will the mods allow a debate to go round and round and round with the same arguments?

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Old 11-11-2008, 11:12 AM
 
Location: Ottawa, Canada
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yes.. but did we come to any sort of general agreement? all of these topics should ahve some type of poll or soemthing.. with each side agreeing on the topic and maybe having like i dunno. too bad it isnt possible to ahve a polling system where we have a 3 votes, that actually count as 1st choice, 2nd choice and 3rd choice. with 1st being worth like 3 poiints or something?>?
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Old 11-11-2008, 12:57 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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Moderators: Perhaps it is time to close this thread -

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Old 11-11-2008, 01:00 PM
 
Location: Yootó
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Oh....never mind...I thought this thread was about the bailout
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Old 11-11-2008, 01:06 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Prostitution has long been known by many as the "victimless" crime. While it's true that neither the prostitute or the "John" is considered a victim, the sale of sex is still illegal. Why do you think that is? What do you think of prostitution?

Im going to go out on a limb here and say that frankly I have never understood why its illegal.....You are exchanging services and both consenting. Its almost like having a housekeeper, you need your house cleaned, they need the money and are good at it.....bada bing.
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Old 11-11-2008, 01:11 PM
 
Location: Ottawa, Canada
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Im going to go out on a limb here and say that frankly I have never understood why its illegal.....You are exchanging services and both consenting. Its almost like having a housekeeper, you need your house cleaned, they need the money and are good at it.....bada bing.
wel you are going out on a limb, actually all your limbs because you obviously never read even 1 of the arguements here against prostitution.. youve never understood why its illegal just because youve obviously never read any opinion other than your own.

i can understand why some people would want ti legal. ive read a million times here thier opinions and reasons. but im not ignorant enough to say "oh i see no reason for prostitution, its 100% bad, no room for other opinions". this obviosuly isnt a black and white arguement. the best you can hope for is to give an intelligent explanation, or reasoning as to why you are for or against it, and hope others agree.

great debate is just another word for dilemna.
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Old 11-11-2008, 01:34 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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you cant use that stupid logic here, because do you realize the reaosning you are using is soo messed up?

for example accoridng to you we shoulding eb gettign the people who are charged for fraud cause the police should be"concentrating of the real criminals liek rapists"

or that cops shouldnt be concerned with dangerous drivers, cause the "real criminals like pedophiles are out there". see how that doesnt work?
I fail to see your point. I'd rather the police focus on people who are dangerous and evil (rapists and pedophiles) compared to those who are criminals of opportunity (fraud, still a crime, but less so than rape) or those who are not even criminals at all. So yeah, your logic is the logic that doesn't work.

Wouldn't you rather see the US spend $300,000,000 on finding Bin Laden than building a bridge to Nowhere, Alaska?

It's a concept called "opportunity costs" and the opportunity costs of policing prostitution, something that has existed from the beginning of time and every other civilized nation has decriminalized in some form, are far more costly to us than the benefits of policing something that is clearly not going anywhere.

Say you have a sister and she gets raped. However, the police has a vice squad of three officers assigned to undercover prostitution stings and only 2 assigned to sexual assaults. Because the police is understaffed (thanks to the concentration on prostitution), your sister's rapist is not caught. This happens every day, only about 60% of violent crimes are solved in this nation, in part because we concentrate too much on personal vices like prostitution and victimless drug use. If we actually used police for real crimes, this would be a much safer nation. After all, the Netherlands has 1/4 the violent crime that we do and they have legal prostitution and soft drugs. Wouldn't you rather have the police concentrating on rapists and not just horny guys and women who need extra money? Legalization would provide those women with protection from the police, eliminating the need for pimps and adding to the safety of the world's oldest profession. Taxing it would bring a revenue stream away from the black market and into the public's hands. After all, you can go online to an escort service and have a woman over to pleasure you in an hour, why not allow that money to be taxed and used to ensure all prostitutes are safe and not spreading disease.
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Old 11-11-2008, 01:58 PM
 
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It is the oldest profession ive heard. If it were regulated and obviously taxed like gambling, the issues that prostitutes have now could be managed. The federal government can fix anything. Our President elects socialized oops i meant nationalized health care system can take care of all the medical issues.
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Old 11-13-2008, 10:24 AM
 
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Prostitution is wrong because it trivializes and (ironically enough) cheapens the meaning and sanctity of sexual relations between two people.
Prostitution (even with all the "checkups" and "safe guards") is a great way to spread disease and produce thousands of "unwanted" children. (a HUGE crime in and of itself. Imagine, unwanted children)
Lastly, the very notion that you can "buy" or "rent" another persons body for what ever purpose, weather the other person is "willing" or not (and just HOW willing IS someone who is SO desperate for income that they RESORT to selling their body....EH! Just how willing IS THAT???)
...the very notion that you can "own" someones body for a period of time is disgusting in the extreme and totally flies in the face of all that THIS country stands for. Sex for money, no LOVE no COMMITMENT no (seemingly) CONSEQUENCES....
No amount of cute hip trendy "tongue in cheek" rhetoric glossy womens magazine psychology or psycho-babble is going to change what prostitution IS, a disgusting degrading situation for the very desperate, or the sexually twisted.

...period...
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