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Old 01-26-2009, 02:50 AM
 
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I agree that prostitution will always exist in some form and that it should be legalized and highly regulated...

I also agree that most romantic relationships between men & women are little more than glorified prostitution, in many ways..

I also wholeheartedly believe that many (I dont believe a majority) but many have been sexually or psychologically abused PRIOR to entering the sex industry. I say 'prior to' because one would be supremely naive not to expect to encounter the kind of degradation/objectification mentioned once they have decided to sign up to work in the sex industry (porn, prostitution or otherwise).

But I dont believe the fact that many women have been psychologically damaged should necessitate the prohibition of the profession. The truth is that many people who have no ties to the sex industry have been physically, emotionally, or sexually abused/exploited...INCLUDING MANY OF THE JOHNS WHO SEEK THE COMPANIONSHIP/AFFECTION of these harlots. But we dont see anyone crying about the 'abuse', and self esteem issues, and downtrodden luck that compels many of these lowlife Johns to frequent sex workers, in hopes of filling whatever void exists in THEIR LIVES AS WELL. No instead we cast our aspersions upon them as predatory losers and move on to dwell on the perceived victimization and intangible psychological impacts of the sex industry on the harlots who are making upwards of $3000 a night...yes poor little rich girl...

Look, all Im saying is that if we are going to be compassionate and make excuses for why prostitutes engage in the profession(psychological/sexual abuse), we must also make those equal provisions for the other party involved in the transaction who may be suffering psychologically/sexually as well...In which event, the exchange is largely symbiotic with the entire engagement being a mutually beneficial transaction IMHO.

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Old 01-26-2009, 12:01 PM
 
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Prostitution! How bad is it really?
When my office was downtown I used to see these skanks working their corner on my way to work.

Judging by their appearance, I would say that prostitution is pretty darn bad
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Old 01-26-2009, 12:22 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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Depends on the lady and he john

We have this young lady in Nevada putting her virginity up for auction - bids are approaching 4 million.

Not to "bad" IMO
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Old 01-26-2009, 12:27 PM
 
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I think prostitution is just the macrocosm for what usually occurs in natural relationships anyway...

Women often use sex as bargaining chips, and men traditionally maintained control of most money for use as their bargaining chips...from what Ive seen, tons of marriages exist in this state, and both parties have come to a mutual understanding.
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Old 01-26-2009, 12:48 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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I think prostitution is just the macrocosm for what usually occurs in natural relationships anyway...

Women often use sex as bargaining chips, and men traditionally maintained control of most money for use as their bargaining chips...from what Ive seen, tons of marriages exist in this state, and both parties have come to a mutual understanding.
Watch "Girls Next Door" or "The Real Housewives" if you want to see high-priced prostitutes operating legally. A housewife IS a prostitute too. A prostitute is anyone who does something for money that most people do for free.

How come Hugh Hefner isn't arrested for being a "john"? He pays his girlfriends a $1,000 weekly stipend!

Regardless, prostitution has been around forever and will always be around...making it a crime is just stupid. Why can't we tax and regulate it to control the spread of STDs and increase tax revenues? In a time of economic crisis, it's moronic to not give these alternative income and tax sources (drugs, trade with Cuba, Prostitution, Gambling) a look.
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Old 01-26-2009, 12:52 PM
 
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Watch "Girls Next Door" or "The Real Housewives" if you want to see high-priced prostitutes operating legally. A housewife IS a prostitute too. A prostitute is anyone who does something for money that most people do for free.

How come Hugh Hefner isn't arrested for being a "john"? He pays his girlfriends a $1,000 weekly stipend!

Regardless, prostitution has been around forever and will always be around...making it a crime is just stupid. Why can't we tax and regulate it to control the spread of STDs and increase tax revenues? In a time of economic crisis, it's moronic to not give these alternative income and tax sources (drugs, trade with Cuba, Prostitution, Gambling) a look.

Co SIGN!...the one drawback to making prostitution illegal is that there would be such a deluge of civil lawsuits from potentially unsatisfied customers, or those customers accusing some workers of price gouging, etc..but lawsuits are part of any legal business, and with prostitutes paying taxes, the industry would practically pay for itself.
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Old 01-26-2009, 05:41 PM
 
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I lived in a country for a while where prostitution was legal and there were brothels all over the place. And I really didn't see it causing any problems at all. In fact, disease rates there were lower than in America. And it was all very clean and safe. It wasn't skanky and dangerous like in America. Legalizing it is the way to go.
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Old 01-27-2009, 04:00 PM
 
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Depends on the prostitute.
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Old 01-27-2009, 04:13 PM
 
Location: California
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Default Prostitution! How bad is it really?

I'll tell you it's pretty bad, every time I pick up a good looking Hooker she turns out to be a Cop This is really hurting my budget
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Old 01-27-2009, 07:08 PM
 
Location: Pensacola, Fl
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They(prositutes) ........like (enjoy) or don't like What they do is not the issue. The issue is how do we find a cure for this disease called prostitution. Am always amazed at the way people pretend that prostitutes and perhaps their patronisers are normal human beings.
You have GOT to be kidding me. Prostitution as a disease? Get real bud. People who are prostitutes are as normal as you and me; they are in no way defected or inherently bad because they sell their bodies. At least they are honest and up clear about what their services are and how much it'll cost. I can name a few that aren't so candid; take politicians, lawyers, and pharmaceutical reps for example.

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I thought man was surposed to be a higer being than the goats, cat and dogs? Prostitution or even any sex out side of marriage reduce us to mere biological animals. Some one may say heh.....man religion out of this. Religion aside, I am positive that prostitution is for people who are mentally abnormal and needs to be in a correction home. If our mothers had ended up in some brothel and we get aborted along the line as unwanted luggage(babies).
You thought man was supposed to be higher than goats, cats, and dogs? Seriously, are you listening to yourself? The only thing that sets humans apart is our ability to imagine (goats, cats, and dogs can all reason, have emotions, etc.). We are no more "higher" than a goat; contrary to popular belief, humans ARE NOT the goal of evolution. Get you're head out of your hole.

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where would we be now?. We can afford to sit and talk the way we do because we had mothers that said no to prostitution.

If all the girls on planet earth were to be prostitutes, hmmmm no more wives and mothers..................is that what we want?
If my mom was a prostitute, I wouldn't think of her any different and would still love her the same as I do now; at least if she was we wouldn't have had to struggle throughout the years doing it the 'morally right' way to make money. Prostituting is a JOB, it doesn't encompass the whole PERSON. See? There's a difference.

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You know the people who talk in support of prostitutions dont usaually have their on sisters as victims.

Heh prostitutes are human pest, They need to be renovated.......sorry i mean rehabilitated.... else they will infect the next generation of good girls. It is because man has never had the will power to check them that is why the spread. It has become the fastest growing human ills than any you can think of. Am looking at it in its totality. You know there are both residential and non residential prostitutes.
You are a bigot; plain and simple. A bigot that doesn't understand why people do the things they do. Human pest? Renovated? I'm not even going to address the rest of you're post; a bigot can't see the other side of the fence, no matter how clearly it's laid out to him.

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Until they have a cure for AIDS a penis is possibly a loaded gun.
Not to mention what if they had the underage problems that were issue in the porn industry.
I know if I paid to do a woman and found out she was a 14 year old little girl I would be suicidal over it.
There is a cure; don't get it. Have safe sex and make damn sure that the condom is the right size and make sure no air is out of the tip (they pressure will pop the top). Until they find a better way to combat HIV/AIDS that's the best one.

It's so simple to find out if someone is legal or not. If there were underage girls in the porn industry, someone somewhere was not doing their job.

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I dont think we need to put less energy into truely caring for others we meet in day to day life.
If you are nice..you will be getting some for free!
;P
But really...a vagina is not a commodity.
Yes it is. You can name anything as a commodity. If you can exchange goods for it (financial security, a house, a car) then it's a commodity. If I want to sell my vagina for money, I should be able to. It's mine and it's not affecting anyone except me and my partner. You shouldn't (and society shouldn't) concern itself with what I do with my v-jay-jay and who I do it with; as long as it's an adult (as in 18 and older) and as long as it's consensual.

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you knwo waht else would reduce the violence without making this terrible act legal? getting to the source of the problem.
But in the meantime while it takes years (decades possibly) to find out why people become prostitutes, legalize it so we can at least lower crime along the way.

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yet again the weak "its her body arguement" PLEASE STOP USING IT. its been used time and time again, and smashed time and time again. the fact its her body has very little to do with it, since people do not have complete control over thier body. secondly, the issue of STD's, mental damage ect is another major issue.
"It's her body" is not a weak argument at all. As I said before, I should (and will) be able to have sex with anyone I want, as long as it's consensual and they are legal, REGARDLESS of whether money was exchanged or not. I don't understand this obsession people have with other's sex life's. It's not affecting you in the least, so why does it matter to you?

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Prostitution is wrong because it trivializes and (ironically enough) cheapens the meaning and sanctity of sexual relations between two people.
No it doesn't; if the person doesn't think sex means alot, then it doesn't mean alot to that person, prostitution doesn't trivialize or cheapen sex, people do. There is no sanctity in sex; just a lot of screaming, sweat, and fluids.

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Prostitution (even with all the "checkups" and "safe guards") is a great way to spread disease and produce thousands of "unwanted" children. (a HUGE crime in and of itself. Imagine, unwanted children)
Sex in general is a great way to spread disease and produce thousands of unwanted children. I like to say if you can't do it right, then don't do it at all (that goes for a variety of things ). It's easy to significantly cut down on unwanted babies and STD's; safe sex and birth control. It's not 100% foolproof but it's better than sitting around and acting like prostitution doesn't exist.

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Lastly, the very notion that you can "buy" or "rent" another persons body for what ever purpose, weather the other person is "willing" or not (and just HOW willing IS someone who is SO desperate for income that they RESORT to selling their body....EH! Just how willing IS THAT???)
If they show clear intent on having sex for money, then they are a wiling participant. I don't like cough medicine, but hey, I'll drink it because when I do my cough is gone.

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...the very notion that you can "own" someones body for a period of time is disgusting in the extreme and totally flies in the face of all that THIS country stands for. Sex for money, no LOVE no COMMITMENT no (seemingly) CONSEQUENCES....
No amount of cute hip trendy "tongue in cheek" rhetoric glossy womens magazine psychology or psycho-babble is going to change what prostitution IS, a disgusting degrading situation for the very desperate, or the sexually twisted.

...period...
And what do you think this country stands for? Christian values? Get real bud.

People have sex all the time with no commitment, no love, no consequences. The only thing different from them and a prostitute is that the prostitute was honest about wanting money for the kitty.
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