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Old 03-16-2009, 04:32 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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Because our society is something called civilized, not some barbaic anarchy where chaos and disorder rule the day.

Also don't you realize that the Bible that you point to all the time says that killing is a sin?
The bible says that murder is a sin, murder being an unjustified killing. Killing a drug-dealer would be biblically justified because they push poisons on society and they corrupt the youth. Killing a prostitute would be biblically justified for there shall be no sodomites among the sons of Israel nor any whores among the daughters of Israel.

On a practical level it should be left to the families.

Each man, acting as the head of his family/household, should decide how he will handle family matters that involve a son who is a drug dealer or a daughter who is a prostitute.
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Old 03-16-2009, 07:12 AM
 
Location: Texas
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The bible says that murder is a sin, murder being an unjustified killing. Killing a drug-dealer would be biblically justified because they push poisons on society and they corrupt the youth. Killing a prostitute would be biblically justified for there shall be no sodomites among the sons of Israel nor any whores among the daughters of Israel.

On a practical level it should be left to the families.

Each man, acting as the head of his family/household, should decide how he will handle family matters that involve a son who is a drug dealer or a daughter who is a prostitute.
A whole new spin on child abuse. Again, Saudi Arabia sounds like a great place for you.
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Old 03-16-2009, 07:15 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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A whole new spin on child abuse. Again, Saudi Arabia sounds like a great place for you.

Why would I want to live in an Arab Muslim nation?

Maybe you should move to Turkey or Sweden with your secular attitudes, eh?
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Old 03-16-2009, 07:25 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Why would I want to live in an Arab Muslim nation?

Maybe you should move to Turkey or Sweden with your secular attitudes, eh?
Well I don't know of a country where Christianity dictates the law. (I should actually say your skewed views of Christianity). The reason I suggested Saudi Arabia is because it seems to enjoy using physical punishment and it seems to have a very high moral code.
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Old 03-16-2009, 08:20 AM
 
Location: Columbus, OH
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The bible says that murder is a sin, murder being an unjustified killing. Killing a drug-dealer would be biblically justified because they push poisons on society and they corrupt the youth. Killing a prostitute would be biblically justified for there shall be no sodomites among the sons of Israel nor any whores among the daughters of Israel.

On a practical level it should be left to the families.

Each man, acting as the head of his family/household, should decide how he will handle family matters that involve a son who is a drug dealer or a daughter who is a prostitute.
I am pretty sure the Bible simply says "Thou shalt not kill", my version did not have an asterisk next to it that saying you can kill people as long as you can find some justification for it. and exactly what should be left up to families?? The punishment? I am sorry but if someone is caught selling drugs then I do not want that person's family to be the only ones dealing out the punishment.
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Old 03-16-2009, 08:40 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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I am pretty sure the Bible simply says "Thou shalt not kill", my version did not have an asterisk next to it that saying you can kill people as long as you can find some justification for it. and exactly what should be left up to families?? The punishment? I am sorry but if someone is caught selling drugs then I do not want that person's family to be the only ones dealing out the punishment.

Well then you either need to learn Hebrew and/or get a Strong's Concordance. The proper translation is "thou shall not murder." PERIOD.


The victim decides the punishment. I doubt the buyer of drugs considers himself a victim, it was more of a business transaction. The primary victim is the family of the drug dealer as they have to live with the shame of having a drug-dealing son.

If any son of mine was dealing drugs I'd take care of it my own way. But then again I'd expect to raise any son of mine better than that.
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Old 03-16-2009, 08:51 AM
 
Location: Texas
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If any son of mine was dealing drugs I'd take care of it my own way.
And then you'd earn yourself a place in the execution chamber or a cell for the rest of your life...as you would deserve.
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Old 03-16-2009, 08:52 AM
 
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And then you'd earn yourself a place in the execution chamber or a cell for the rest of your life...as you would deserve.

Throwing somebody out of my house and refusing to have any contact with them or acknowledge them in any way/shape/form is worthy of death?
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Old 03-16-2009, 08:55 AM
 
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Throwing somebody out of my house and refusing to have any contact with them or acknowledge them in any way/shape/form is worthy of death?
I'm sorry. I assumed you meant that you'd kill your son. You are right that throwing them out and cutting them off is not worthy of death.

Anyway...I'm posting this here for everyone to see. I'm assuming it came from you. A rep comment...."People like you are going to get what they deserve when Jesus comes back in power and glory!"
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Old 03-16-2009, 08:58 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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I'm sorry. I assumed you meant that you'd kill your son. You are right that throwing them out and cutting them off is not worthy of death.

Anyway...I'm posting this here for everyone to see. I'm assuming it came from you. A rep comment...."People like you are going to get what they deserve when Jesus comes back in power and glory!"


You tell me that I'm worthy of death before you even know what my reaction/response would be, and then you get mad when I tell you that you'll get what you deserve from Jesus.

Those who are quick to pass judgement will receive the judgement. Executing somebody (when it is not biblically called for) is about as judgemental as mortal man can get. So if you kill me for living my life how I see fit and excluding people from my life when I see fit, you're darn right you'll get what you have coming when Jesus returns!
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