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Old 03-27-2009, 07:31 AM
 
Location: Columbus, OH
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I personally find prostitution morally dubious however feel if it was truly consensual it should be legalised to make it safer for prostitutes.

My main problem wih prostitution is that the vast majority of women ( and men) are either trafficked or coerced into it whether by violence, or simply by poverty ( a very strong motive for selling your body around the world).

If prostitution was a true career choice ( as it is for some rare lucky women) then I would set aside my moral reservations.

I do think however that this will only solve part of the problem as many women who for whatever reasons ( such as being illegally smuggled in or being illegal immigrants) will still have to work underground and risk their lives every day.

Prostitution is not just about having sex for money it is about why people chose it ? from both sides.

The true face of prostitution is not one of legalised brothels where the women have chosen a career path of their own volition ( and even then I would still question what is behind a decision) but one of rape, mutilation, murder, suffering and pain. The sex industry is not squeaky clean as Playboy would have us believe.
We are getting into a separate arguments here, I am arguing that when it comes to legalizing prostitution the potential benefits outweigh the cons. I think somewhere along the way it sounded like I was arguing legalizing prostitution would clear up all the problems of prostitution, which it won't.

I am not saying legalizing prostitution would clean up all the negatives associated with it, and I am not saying that every girl in poverty would/should turn to prostitution. But I am thinking less of the poverty stricken inner city prostitutes and more of the girls who currently are strippers or in porno. These women are typically not as poor/desperate as the prostitutes most people are referring to, and yet they choose to sell their body because they think its worth the money. Where is the harm of these kinds of people (strippers) being able to legally have sex with adults for money?
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Old 03-27-2009, 08:03 AM
 
Location: Texas
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They've started putting pictures of prostitutes on TV here...
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Old 03-27-2009, 08:43 AM
 
Location: Columbus, OH
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They've started putting pictures of prostitutes on TV here...
Sweet?? ...

How is that even legal in Texas?
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Old 03-27-2009, 09:37 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Sweet?? ...

How is that even legal in Texas?
The police are putting their mugshots up on community cable channels and on the Internet. The photo and name of an arrested person is a public record. A city about 20 miles from where I live has started a huge crackdown on prostitution, including by trying to provide embarassment for the prositutes.

The DA in my county recently announced a plan to ask judges for a minimum of 120 days in jail for any person with a 3rd prostitution offense and 180 days for a 4th offense. There have been several stories in our news about it.

I certainly didn't mean that they were doing advertising.

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Old 03-27-2009, 11:36 AM
 
Location: Under a bridge.
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The DA in my county recently announced a plan to ask judges for a minimum of 120 days in jail for any person with a 3rd prostitution offense and 180 days for a 4th offense. There have been several stories in our news about it.
Wow...what a lot of taxpayer money being spent putting people having sex into jail!....Are there not better ways to spend the money? Like maybe, teaching kids to read better, or maybe, childhood innoculations, or ....
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Old 03-27-2009, 11:54 AM
 
Location: Denver
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We are getting into a separate arguments here, I am arguing that when it comes to legalizing prostitution the potential benefits outweigh the cons. I think somewhere along the way it sounded like I was arguing legalizing prostitution would clear up all the problems of prostitution, which it won't.

I am not saying legalizing prostitution would clean up all the negatives associated with it, and I am not saying that every girl in poverty would/should turn to prostitution. But I am thinking less of the poverty stricken inner city prostitutes and more of the girls who currently are strippers or in porno. These women are typically not as poor/desperate as the prostitutes most people are referring to, and yet they choose to sell their body because they think its worth the money. Where is the harm of these kinds of people (strippers) being able to legally have sex with adults for money?
Imo the harm that would be done by legalizing prostitution is that it can't be regulated or made so that only the strippers and porn stars that want to be in the business can be while the dirtier types can't be. It would provide a great opportunity for some (the pretty woman, just trying to make extra cash type) but it would also legalize the cons of prostitution, the forced and coerced prostitutes, the 'poverty stricken inner city prostitutes' too. I'm sure most people who would agree with legalizing prostitution are only thinking of the sexy, independent callgirl types which is not the vast majority or even realistic face of prostitution.
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Old 03-27-2009, 12:09 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Wow...what a lot of taxpayer money being spent putting people having sex into jail!....Are there not better ways to spend the money? Like maybe, teaching kids to read better, or maybe, childhood innoculations, or ....
I agree it is stupid. I have mixed feelings, as you know from my posts, about whether prostitution should be legal or not. At the same time, if it is illegal, this money could be better spent on things like drug treatment, helping them get an actual education and a real job, etc.

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Old 03-27-2009, 12:25 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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I agree it is stupid. I have mixed feelings, as you know from my posts, about whether prostitution should be legal or not. At the same time, if it is illegal, this money could be better spent on things like drug treatment, helping them get an actual education and a real job, etc.
Real person: Young lady was well educated. Had a good degree from a well respected University. She was recruited right out of school - and got what she thought was a good salary (it was for the job) - not quite 6 figures - but, pushing it.

Found out that by being a really discriminating "Lady of the Evening", she could make, in a week (maybe 2), she could make what it took her almost a year to make.

She quit her "day" job and is solely working her "night" job.
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Old 03-27-2009, 12:28 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Real person: Young lady was well educated. Had a good degree from a well respected University. She was recruited right out of school - and got what she thought was a good salary (it was for the job) - not quite 6 figures - but, pushing it.

Found out that by being a really discriminating "Lady of the Evening", she could make, in a week (maybe 2), she could make what it took her almost a year to make.

She quit her "day" job and is solely working her "night" job.
I never said it wasn't this way in some cases. But, at the same time, I'm pretty sure that most prostitutes would rather be doing something else.
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Old 03-27-2009, 12:31 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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I never said it wasn't this way in some cases. But, at the same time, I'm pretty sure that most prostitutes would rather be doing something else.
Oh, I'm sure you are correct. But, it might come as a surprise to you how many are actually well educated.

Oh, to be sure, many of the "street" hookers are far from being educated - but the young ladies you meet in our casinos or the brothers - different thing.

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