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View Poll Results: Do You Think America is Slowly Going Downhill?
Yes, America is headed in the wrong direction. 211 68.73%
No, we're fine. It's just a little downtime. 96 31.27%
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Old 09-25-2008, 09:36 PM
 
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Neither one is a good leader. It should have been Hillary. She's a good mix of the two. America is doomed.

But, of the two, I support Obama.

 
Old 09-25-2008, 10:25 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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bear stearns collapsed
freddie mae collapsed
fannie mae collapsed
merrill lynch collapsed
lehman brothers collapsed
American Insurance Group collapsed
Washington Mutual collapsed

morgan stanley is next
goldman sachs will follow
wachovia will fail because of the morgan stanley collapse
....yes, we are headed in the wrong direction
 
Old 09-25-2008, 11:33 PM
 
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A result of 8 years of an unqualified and terrible US President. Obama is going to have to clean up Bush's mistakes.
No. A result of thirty years of predominantly Republican presidents steering public policy in a trickle-down image. Obama will have to clean up Bush's mistakes, those of Bush's father and Reagan's. He should also be able to compensate for Clinton's ineptitude.
 
Old 09-25-2008, 11:44 PM
 
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Teenage crime is increasing, teenagers using drugs is increasing, hitting our police with lawsuits is becoming a sport, and poverty is rising. Wow, I can't wait to see America in 10 years when teenagers today are criminals to the core at 25 years old.

P.S. Obama will destroy America. He's not fit to be a leader, he's sat at a desk his whole life. McCain's experienced the power of war. He's a true leader.
Crime is on a downward trend on a national level. Teenagers steal their parents Oxycontin, they don't fight drug wars on city streets. if you want to make valid points about youth, you could point out their inability to communicate, their degredation of language, their inflated egos and self-centered nature. Teenagers are not the root cause of an impending crime wage.
McCain's service and valor is indisputable, he should be honored for it. The status of being a veteran, however, does not necessairily prepare anyone for the presidency. For every VFW member at the local lodge, I can find a Vietnam Veteran living on the street. McCain's experience comes from his terms in the Senate. Set political differences aside, and you will see that both candidates come from backgrounds which allow them to be effective presidents.
 
Old 09-26-2008, 11:41 AM
 
Location: East Tennessee and Atlanta
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Originally Posted by FutureCop View Post
Teenage crime is increasing, teenagers using drugs is increasing, hitting our police with lawsuits is becoming a sport, and poverty is rising. Wow, I can't wait to see America in 10 years when teenagers today are criminals to the core at 25 years old.

P.S. Obama will destroy America. He's not fit to be a leader, he's sat at a desk his whole life. McCain's experienced the power of war. He's a true leader.
How will he destroy America? That's an extremely sensationalist viewpoint. Since McCain has "seen war," he is a true leader? McCain's military service is certainly honorable and commendable. It doesn't make him qualified to become President, however.

Well, a teenager becoming a criminal is not the fault of the President, any President. That's the fault of the parents. Discipline starts at home.
 
Old 09-26-2008, 11:43 AM
 
Location: East Tennessee and Atlanta
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bear stearns collapsed
freddie mae collapsed
fannie mae collapsed
merrill lynch collapsed
lehman brothers collapsed
American Insurance Group collapsed
Washington Mutual collapsed

morgan stanley is next
goldman sachs will follow
wachovia will fail because of the morgan stanley collapse
....yes, we are headed in the wrong direction
and the sky is falling! this financial mess happened on Bush's watch. Wrong direction is right. Hey, I didn't vote for the guy.
 
Old 09-26-2008, 11:46 AM
 
Location: East Tennessee and Atlanta
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No. A result of thirty years of predominantly Republican presidents steering public policy in a trickle-down image. Obama will have to clean up Bush's mistakes, those of Bush's father and Reagan's. He should also be able to compensate for Clinton's ineptitude.
Yeah...I see the point. I hope Obama can make it 8 years and really get some work done. It'll take up most of his first term to mop up this mess.
 
Old 09-26-2008, 11:53 AM
 
Location: Scarsdale, NY
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Originally Posted by Minnehahapolitan View Post
Crime is on a downward trend on a national level. Teenagers steal their parents Oxycontin, they don't fight drug wars on city streets. if you want to make valid points about youth, you could point out their inability to communicate, their degredation of language, their inflated egos and self-centered nature. Teenagers are not the root cause of an impending crime wage.
McCain's service and valor is indisputable, he should be honored for it. The status of being a veteran, however, does not necessairily prepare anyone for the presidency. For every VFW member at the local lodge, I can find a Vietnam Veteran living on the street. McCain's experience comes from his terms in the Senate. Set political differences aside, and you will see that both candidates come from backgrounds which allow them to be effective presidents.
The reason crime has decreased is a result of the 90s great economy, but due to the fact that our economy's starting to go downhill, crime rate drops are slowing down and will soon rise. You see, when the economy goes down, jobs go down... People are laid off, kids drop out of school to help mom pay rent, no jobs = increased drug dealing... Increased drug dealing = increased murder rate... NYC is experiencing a 9% murder rate rise this year. Chicago's experiencing a murder rate rise this year, Houston is too... Three of the most important cities in America are experiencing a rise in murders.

Right now it may not be bad, but unless our economy starts to get back on its feet... Crime will continue to rise.

I don't know how much you know about teenagers committing crimes, but my father's a lawyer (used to be a Fed) and my uncle's a police officer. And statistics show that teenage crime is on the rise.
 
Old 09-29-2008, 09:20 AM
 
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"McCain's experienced the power of war. He's a true leader."

McCain and Bush both supported the notion that Iraq had something to do with 9-11. Lol...
McCain was CAUGHT and imprisioned during Vietnam...how does that make a leader? He's also 72 years old with a temper.

BTW...Hitler was a leader, supported by morons. Bush McCain and Hitler have similar supporters.
 
Old 09-29-2008, 02:11 PM
 
Location: Scarsdale, NY
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"McCain's experienced the power of war. He's a true leader."

McCain and Bush both supported the notion that Iraq had something to do with 9-11. Lol...
McCain was CAUGHT and imprisioned during Vietnam...how does that make a leader? He's also 72 years old with a temper.

BTW...Hitler was a leader, supported by morons. Bush McCain and Hitler have similar supporters.
No need for personal attacks. That only proves your insecurity. McCain's a leader, Obama's a cubicle worker. End of story.
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