Should people that do unskilled but extremely dirty- ugly- boring jobs be paid more? (school, education)

[TKramar]

Originally Posted by old_cold

, "a person with a low income, still might not want room mates"

Want??Want??
Sigh......
What someone wants and what they NEED are two different things.
If you WANT it, you have to pay for it and you can only pay for it if you have the means.
(That has not applied in the housing or credit market in the USA these last many years)

Well, see, having roommates puts you in the position of having people steal what little money or food you have to live on.

[old_cold]

TKramer
It appears that you are living within your means and know enough to stretch what dollars you have.
II think you've made my point.
If you can do it so can others.
On a side note....I won't say I don't it too, and not for economic reasons, but you really should eat more than that once a day.(Lecture over
But just out of curiousity....do you do that for economic reasons or because, against medical advice, you function as well or better that way?

[PokerPlayer84]

Originally Posted by PanTerra

If people don't have the ability to perform certain tasks of a "skilled" position, why would they be hired for that position. If the unskilled wants a job that requires a skilled employee, how are they going to compete in that market where there are skilled candidates. They just need to become skilled if that is what they want.

Well I do not considered working at fast food or clothing unskilled. If it was then there would be no need to trained for that job.

[TKramar]

Originally Posted by old_cold

TKramer
It appears that you are living within your means and know enough to stretch what dollars you have.
II think you've made my point.
If you can do it so can others.
On a side note....I won't say I don't it too, and not for economic reasons, but you really should eat more than that once a day.(Lecture over
But just out of curiousity....do you do that for economic reasons or because, against medical advice, you function as well or better that way?

I function just as well eating once a day. I do keep hydrated. Other than walking to work, putting in 8 hours of physical labor, then walking back, I don't do anything special to keep fit.

It keeps me from putting on too much weight though. When I have eaten more than once a day, I've gotten pretty portly. I've been as high as 160#...I'm not that now.

[Roaddog]

A person should get paid what their worth, a reliable hard worker should be paid more than the worker just putting in the time, no matter what line of work they are performing, their job is just as important as any other.
Many jobs pay does not reflect on the importance of the job, the guy digging your trenches for your sprinkler sysem may be getting paid minimum wage, if he wasn't there to do it and you had to you may think he deserves more.
To the OP, in these times of uncertian economics don't look down your nose at the working man because you may end up one of them.

[TKramar]

If a person is just "putting in the time", Roaddog, he's not being PRODUCTIVE with his time, and should be fired. But if it's obvious he's trying, and he's REASONABLY productive, then he's just doing his best. And should be paid as much as anyone else doing their best.

[PokerPlayer84]

Originally Posted by Capt. Cave Man

If I worked hard for my money, took risks that others wouldn't, and I have a $1 more than someone else.......then why should I "give it up so others can benifit" from my hard work?

You have a computer/internet, I assume? Then you have more money than others, do you "give it up so others can benifit"?

Look at those who have been given money, did they use it to produce jobs for others?

The US is not a communist nation. Where do you "live", Poker?

If you have enough why would not want others to have enough ? Are you that self centered that all you care about is yourself?

[Capt. Cave Man]

Originally Posted by PokerPlayer84

If you have enough why would not want others to have enough ? Are you that self centered that all you care about is yourself?

Take'n risks and creating new jobs is self centered? Yes I make more money if I play my cards right, and when another need is wanted in the area, I hope to fill that need and create more jobs.

I also donate/give to those who need it, not to whining babies that expect handouts.

Fair is not equal.

[PokerPlayer84]

Originally Posted by Capt. Cave Man

Take'n risks and creating new jobs is self centered? Yes I make more money if I play my cards right, and when another need is wanted in the area, I hope to fill that need and create more jobs.

I also donate/give to those who need it, not to whining babies that expect handouts.

Fair is not equal.

People do not expect a handout they expect to me treated as humans and when they work a job that it pays enough so they can live. That is not asking to much.

[laysayfair]

Originally Posted by PokerPlayer84

People do not expect a handout they expect to me treated as humans and when they work a job that it pays enough so they can live. That is not asking to much.

They need to make decisions to that end, if that's what they want. They need to behave like grown-ups with their life in their own hands and not like children who hope everyone else will cover for them when things don't go their way.