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Old 10-13-2008, 06:23 PM
 
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i don't mean that you are the only one seeing that--i think we have all seen that. i just mean that it isn't definitive of everyone in our areas, even yours. i think--and place my trust in--that the majority of humanity, even the poor ones, are still honest, decent, hard-working folk. for the most part, my experience supports that. but personal experience, as you mentioned above, is hardly a reliable source for census-type information.
Well stated.
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Old 10-18-2008, 08:17 PM
 
Location: Middle Earth
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There is plenty of money in the world to go around. There should be no reason that a person that works should not be ablt to have food and a place to live. The reason this does not happen is greed. The people with all the money do not want to give it up so others can benifit.
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Old 10-19-2008, 08:16 AM
 
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There is plenty of money in the world to go around. There should be no reason that a person that works should not be ablt to have food and a place to live. The reason this does not happen is greed. The people with all the money do not want to give it up so others can benifit.
If I worked hard for my money, took risks that others wouldn't, and I have a $1 more than someone else.......then why should I "give it up so others can benifit" from my hard work?

You have a computer/internet, I assume? Then you have more money than others, do you "give it up so others can benifit"?

Look at those who have been given money, did they use it to produce jobs for others?

The US is not a communist nation. Where do you "live", Poker?
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Old 10-19-2008, 11:05 AM
 
Location: Middle Earth
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If I worked hard for my money, took risks that others wouldn't, and I have a $1 more than someone else.......then why should I "give it up so others can benifit" from my hard work?

You have a computer/internet, I assume? Then you have more money than others, do you "give it up so others can benifit"?

Look at those who have been given money, did they use it to produce jobs for others?

The US is not a communist nation. Where do you "live", Poker?
That is fine you should but everyone who works should be able to live on it. THis is just human decency
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Old 10-19-2008, 02:16 PM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
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That is fine you should but everyone who works should be able to live on it. THis is just human decency
How do you know we're not posting from the library? Or, horrors, from work?

EDIT: Quoted wrong post. Did not include Capt. Cave Man's post, which is the text I was answering, not Poker's.
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Old 10-19-2008, 06:06 PM
 
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How do you know we're not posting from the library? Or, horrors, from work?

EDIT: Quoted wrong post. Did not include Capt. Cave Man's post, which is the text I was answering, not Poker's.
Good point, I never thought of that. Our library has one computer. Benefits of living in a small town.

Who would be on here during work, that is just wrong.
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Old 10-20-2008, 12:37 AM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
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If it's that small, you might not have clients to tend to at that moment...for those who work in an office.
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Old 10-20-2008, 05:39 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Why is it almost every discussion involving income brings up the issue of not having enough to "support my family".
In the world of low wage earners, almost invariably the "family" was started when the low income was already a fact.
Just because one is physically capable of having children doesn't make it mandatory.
How well educated do you need to be to know that if you make minimum wage you most likely aren't going to comfortably sustain a family of 4?
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Old 10-20-2008, 02:07 PM
 
Location: Carlsbad
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Why is it almost every discussion involving income brings up the issue of not having enough to "support my family".
In the world of low wage earners, almost invariably the "family" was started when the low income was already a fact.
Just because one is physically capable of having children doesn't make it mandatory.
How well educated do you need to be to know that if you make minimum wage you most likely aren't going to comfortably sustain a family of 4?
I think this is an excellent point. I'm 25, with a good job, a college degree, an amazing boyfriend and a supportive family....but...I won't get married or have kids yet purely because of financial limitations. (of course, I'm saving so this won't hold me back forever).

My brain and my heart have a hard time with this one. My brain says people who make the decision to have a family should be able to support that decision- financially. My heart says everyone has the right to have a family, and money shouldn't stop someone from exercising that right.

And of course I'm not addressing those that have families where the providers have lost their jobs.
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Old 10-20-2008, 02:28 PM
 
Location: Middle Earth
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I guess the problem I have is people care more about if there employee is "skilled" or "unskilled" then that they are a human and need food and shelter.
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