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Old 10-05-2008, 11:05 PM
 
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It's not defense it's debate isn't that why we come to the great DEBATES forum?
Yes of course.
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Old 10-05-2008, 11:05 PM
 
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At least Billie Holiday and her listeners didn't get sent to death camps or did they?
I doubt people were sent to the camps because they had her records but they may have been. During Kristalnacht there were several fires being fueled by banned records and books but I have never heard if being in possession of one could send one to a camp. Good question. Something new for me to research
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Old 10-05-2008, 11:07 PM
 
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I also heard a lot of homosexuals in germany were never captured and sent to death camps.
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Old 10-05-2008, 11:10 PM
 
Location: Aiken S.C
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Not defending it by any means, but his reign was gradual and seemed like the next logical step to the Germans. Their economy was bust and Hitler knew what to say and how to say it.He was going to "save" them. He even had Leni Reifenstahl film the most amazing propaganda movies of all time to drive his points home to the German people. He knew what he was doing and he did it well.
Triumph of will the greatest propaganda fim ever devised. I have watched it and was amazed at the whole production .
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Old 10-05-2008, 11:12 PM
 
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Does it have subtitles? Be honest.

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Triumph of will the greatest propaganda fim ever devised. I have watched it and was amazed at the whole production .
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Old 10-05-2008, 11:15 PM
 
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Triumph of will the greatest propaganda fim ever devised. I have watched it and was amazed at the whole production .
Riefenstahl was an amazing filmmaker. She was actually able to have a decent career after her association with Hitler. Surprising.
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Old 10-05-2008, 11:18 PM
 
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Does it have subtitles? Be honest.
Yep sure did
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Old 10-05-2008, 11:23 PM
 
Location: The Netherlands
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Come on are you Americans truly trying to pin the deathcamps on lil ol' Hitler?
He got the ideas from America and your Indian reservations* and S. Africa and their townships**.
The only difference is the mortality rate.
You could even argue that the Americans and the S. Africans are crueler than the Nazis by killing their victims very slowly.
See my post:http://www.city-data.com/forum/2473530-post15.html

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*In 1851, the United States Congress passed the Indian Appropriations Act which authorized the creation of Indian reservations in modern day Oklahoma. Relations between settlers and natives had grown increasingly worse as the settlers encroached on territory and natural resources in the West.

President Ulysses S. Grant pursued a stated "Peace Policy" as a possible solution to the conflict. The policy included a reorganization of the Indian Service, with the goal of relocating various tribes from their ancestral homes to parcels of lands established specifically for their inhabitation. The policy called for the replacement of government officials by religious men, nominated by churches, to oversee the Indian agencies on reservations in order to teach Christianity to the native tribes. The Quakers were especially active in this policy on reservations. The "civilization" policy was aimed at eventually preparing the tribes for citizenship.

In many cases the lands granted to tribes were hostile to agricultural cultivation, leaving many tribes who accepted the policy in a state bordering on starvation.

Reservation treaties sometimes included stipend agreements, in which the federal government would grant a certain amount of goods to a tribe yearly. The implementation of the policy was erratic, however, and in many cases the stipend goods were not delivered.

Source: Indian reservation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

** In South Africa, the term township usually refers to the (often underdeveloped) urban living areas that, under Apartheid, were reserved for non-whites (principally black Africans and Coloureds, but also working class Indians). Townships were usually built on the periphery of towns and cities.

Source: Township (South Africa - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)
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Old 10-05-2008, 11:28 PM
 
Location: Aiken S.C
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Come on are you Americans truly trying to pin the deathcamps on lil ol' Hitler?
He got the ideas from America and your Indian reservations* and S. Africa and their townships**.
The only difference is the mortality rate.
You could even argue that the Americans and the S. Africans are crueler than the Nazis by killing their victims very slowly.
See my post:http://www.city-data.com/forum/2473530-post15.html
until the gas 6 million i disagree.
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Old 10-05-2008, 11:32 PM
 
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There will always be genocide, but Hitlers approach was more organized than any other rulers.
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