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Old 10-31-2008, 08:50 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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Right, I find legalizing carrying firearms a funny way to combat your nationís gun problems.
Well, inasmuch as you don't live here, are not coming here - have no desire to come here - it's not your problem then -
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Old 10-31-2008, 09:09 PM
 
Location: In a house
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Originally Posted by Tin Knocker No I'm not, because my primary weapon (like my family's) is my brain.
People who are armed with a gun are nothing if they aren't able to think on their feet.
So whenever I see someone draw a gun my 1st action will be to duck for cover instead of trying to outdraw them.
A distance weapon becomes completely useless when you can't see your target.
Ahh, now I understand. You really are clueless.

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The gun lobby is the epitome of stupidity since it is a direct result of mob 'justice' which has the same results as the public lynching of negroes in the South during the segregation where the hysterical (white) mob is the judge, jury and the executioner.
And a racist. An ignorant racist. You might like to know that the first gun control was passed in order to disarm freed slaves.

The gun lobby is a direct result of governmental restrictions of civil rights.
It has nothing to do with mob justice or southern discrimination.

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You can't simulate a combat situation on a shooting range, especially when the targets you're shooting at aren't shooting back.
Training your accuracy with a gun on a shooting range relates to reality like masturbation relates to sex.
People who believe that they're battle ready because they train once or twice a year is as 'prepared' as a virgin who prepared himself for his 1st time by only having watched porn.
How often do you suppose the average police officer trains? I know several that only bother to qualify when required. You really should stop, with each statement you render yourself more obviously ignorant of this subject.


On another note, where & how do you think police train? Do you think they shoot it out with each other? They shoot at a range. They may engage interactive targets but so do many recreational shooters.

I cant speak for everybody, but most of the gun owners I know that carry shoot at least bi monthly, many several times a week. I dont think I'm battle ready, but I know I will hit what I shoot at. Generally speaking I visit the range at least weekly. Its still not training for battle, but thats not my intent. I just like to shoot.

Alot of guys that only hunt might shoot once or twice a year, but I dont think your talking about them.


When you said you were carrying a large bore revolver for protection from bears. How much training did you undergo?

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Right, I find legalizing carrying firearms a funny way to combat your nationís gun problems.
As I'v said, I dont expect you to understand the idea of liberty. Its forien to you. What even you should notice, even if you dont like or understand it, is that we have relaxed carry laws & more states than ever are passing reasonable carry laws. More people than ever are excercising this right & at the same time crime is down. Now, it might be down for reasons having nothing to do with guns. But its pretty obvious that more guns in law abiding civilian hands does NOT increase crime or deaths from them.

So, go downtown & smoke some hash, dont sweat it, its not your problem. Let those of us capable of acting responsibly enjoy liberty, whilst you enjoy,,,,,, hell I'm sure there must be something worth living for in the Neatherlands, I just cant come up with one.
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Old 11-01-2008, 09:54 AM
 
Location: The Netherlands
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Well, inasmuch as you don't live here, are not coming here - have no desire to come here - it's not your problem then -
It is my problem because the American ignorance has started the global credit crisis.
If we ( the non-Americans) let America continue on its chosen path it will drag the whole world into a real global economical crash.


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As I'v said, I dont expect you to understand the idea of liberty.
Důh, you still don’t understand that criminals share your opinion about 'personal freedom' and 'no government interference'.
You also aren't willing to admit that fascist ideologies thrive on simple fear (read: propaganda through polarisation).
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Old 11-01-2008, 09:56 AM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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It is my problem because the American ignorance has started the global credit crisis
Sorry but gun ownership has nothing - nada - zilch to do with the "global credit crisis"
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Old 11-01-2008, 10:02 AM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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If we ( the non-Americans) let America continue on its chosen path it will drag the whole world into a real global economical crash.
"Let America continue ....."!

So, now you want to interfere with our government - our Constitution - our very lives!

Then, what is good for the goose, is good for the Gander -
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Old 11-01-2008, 10:03 AM
 
Location: The Netherlands
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Sorry but gun ownership has nothing - nada - zilch to do with the "global credit crisis"
Ah, I see that you still deny the fact that America started their wars for economical reasons (read: oil) and not to free Iraq.
Fighting several wars only drives up your national debt but I guess you choose to ignore that too.
I guess I can't blame the American citizens for imitating their government's behaviour ( read: spent money they don't even have which resulted in the credit crisis as the only possible outcome).
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Old 11-01-2008, 10:06 AM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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Originally Posted by Greatday Ah, I see that you still deny the fact that America started their wars for economical reasons (read: oil) and not to free Iraq.
Fighting several wars only drives up your national debt but I guess you choose to ignore that too.
Now - you are totally straying off the issue

"We" were not talking wars - "we" were talking gun ownership

Your post above is Non sequitur
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Old 11-01-2008, 10:13 AM
 
Location: The Netherlands
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Originally Posted by Greatday
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"We" were not talking wars - "we" were talking gun ownership
Gun ownership always results in a conflict and a war is nothing but a conflict.
It is a simple fact that only your American weapons industry profits from waging as much wars as their government admits and gun ownership.
Guns costs money.
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Old 11-01-2008, 10:15 AM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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Gun ownership always results in a conflict and a war is nothing but a conflict.
Nope - totally different issues. Apple v Oranges

OBTW: your statement; "Gun ownership always results in a conflict"? It is a false statement. I know MANY, MANY gun owners who have NEVER had a "conflict" with another -
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Old 11-01-2008, 10:18 AM
 
Location: In a house
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Originally Posted by Greatday It is my problem because the American ignorance has started the global credit crisis.
If we ( the non-Americans) let America continue on its chosen path it will drag the whole world into a real global economical crash.
American ignorance is why you are free to spew your ignorant BS.

There is nothing you can do regarding America's "chosen path" Get over it.


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Originally Posted by Tin Knocker Důh, you still donít understand that criminals share your opinion about 'personal freedom' and 'no government interference'.
You also aren't willing to admit that fascist ideologies thrive on simple fear (read: propaganda through polarisation).
What I understand is its utter foolishness to let criminals dictate what liberties you enjoy. The criminals, if they even care, would much rather we subjugate the American people as you do anyway.

Theres nothing fascist about having inalienable rights.
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