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Are you claiming that rapists are unable to rape an armed person? Being a rapist doesn't necessarily mean being stupid.
Besidez, no gun will protect you against being drugged or manipulation so a rapist can have his way with you.
Am I claiming that?
I've got to learn to be way more careful in the composition of my posts. I learned a long time ago (but have apparently forgotten...) that liberals have no sense of humor. It's one of the major reasons that Al Franken's Radio America ultra-libbo talk show tanked so spectacularly. All they did all the time was go berserk about any and all conservative ideas. Meantime, over on the blowhard Limbaugh's show, at least they poke fun at themselves but also at the lib/Dems.
So here we have it. My comment about "Can you imagine trying to rape one of these girls!" was a sort of attempt at a fun rhetorical comment. After all, CAN you imagine trying to rape one of these girls? I think a dumb rapist, which many of them are for needing that sort of gratification or power trip, might just think about an alternate target. Otherwise he might find himself perforated. Ha Ha. A funny thought. Get it?
Of course it's not impossible, you humorless dolt! (Joke! joke!). The point, which you missed by a country kilometer, was that Swiss culture, repleat with assault rifles everywhere, is just fine, thank you, and yet... and yet, somehow they have people in a Baskin-Robbins totin' the dread Assault Rifles. Even girls! On the weekends they get together, happy groups of teens not listening to iPods, shooting in friendly competition. Noahma correctly notes that some recent shooting situations in Switzerland were the result of out of country types, not Swiss nationals. Damned illegal criminal types... they're a growing problem everywhere, eh?
According the the Clintonista couple, Herr Obama, and all the other wacko-lib/Dem gun banners, just the mere presence of an assault-style weapon will cause all redneck, non-intellectual, non-Obama voting types to go into an uncontrolled Whitman tower sniper-murderer mode. To paraphrase Mr. Obama a few weeks ago, "Who wants a bunch of gang members running around the streets with AK rifles?" Who indeed.
I know: let's prosecute the gang members!
Oddly, again, this time seriously, I'll say: the dissolution of civil behavior because of firearms hasn't happened in Switzerland. Different culture, I'll admit, but apparently It's Not the Assault Rifles, Stupid.
can you please post some facts to substantiate your claim that law-abiding gun owners "going nuts, and sniping at people from some tower somewhere"?
Whitman's example number one...however, there have been other snipers. Consider the guys out in D.C. Consider the freak inside a California McDonald's--why'd he go nuts? His Big Mac wasn't flame broiled?
Whitman's example number one...however, there have been other snipers. Consider the guys out in D.C. Consider the freak inside a California McDonald's--why'd he go nuts? His Big Mac wasn't flame broiled?
People with guns are a MENACE to society.
Whitman was not close to being sane, and it should have been noted that he had problem, in which he complained about to his family, friends and the school health advisor's on campus.
The commission found that Whitman had been suffering from a glioblastoma, a highly cancerous and deadly tumor. This has led to speculation that the tumor may have been contributory to his rampage.
(breakdown of the health system)
The D.C sniper weapon was not purchased legally, but shoplifted out of a store (breakdown of security in a store) Muhammad had a long record of domestic abuse, which would have turned up in the mandatory background search, and would have been grounds for refusing the sale by law, and malvo was under the age, and could not legally purchase a firearm.
ohh god, you actually thought to use the California McDonald's shooting as an example? a man who had a very long repeated record of domestic violence, abuse, assault on animals. Which again, would turn up in the mandatory background check, thus making his purchase of a firearm illegal.
The day before the killings he called a mental health facility to get help..... they misspelled his name. Wow another health system breakdown. he told his wife the day of the shootings when she asked him where he was going and he said "hunting humans" and well..... as she failed to report this to the police.
there are over 200 million privately and legally owned firearms in America, you find 3 examples of nut cases in which the shootings could have been prevented to state your case that legal gun owners are a menace to society? Your ignorance is shining in this one.
In how many of those cases were the perpetrators able to purchase guns? In Whitman's case, his ownership PRECEDED any indication of mental health issues.
What about the countless cases of domestic violence involving guns...where the perpetrator commited NO previous crime?
In how many of those cases were the perpetrators able to purchase guns? In Whitman's case, his ownership PRECEDED any indication of mental health issues.
What about the countless cases of domestic violence involving guns...where the perpetrator commited NO previous crime?
Really, I just realized that this is not one of the countless numbers of gun threads within this forum... how about we get back on topic, feel free to choose many of the other gun threads to post in regarding this topic.
No it ain't.
It is an illusion to believe that guns keep you safe.
A gun is nothing more than a tool and giving any idiot who believes being armed turns him into John Rambo, only places more people in danger instead of adding safety.
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I learned a long time ago (but have apparently forgotten...) that liberals have no sense of humor.
Its just a damn shame for you that I ain't a liberal; I'm just a pragmatist.
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Hey: good bumper sticker, no?
Nope, it would be the same as the bumper sticker that says: Governments don't torture people, only people torture people.
I guess only naive people believe that it ain't the guns that kill people, instead they blame the criminal element. As if the law (read: the death penalty) could prevent people from killing each other.
Really, I just realized that this is not one of the countless numbers of gun threads within this forum... how about we get back on topic, feel free to choose many of the other gun threads to post in regarding this topic.
True, that wasn't the only thing that needs to be changed! There are plenty of other things that could be "corrected". Really, they should just scrap the whole thing!
True, that wasn't the only thing that needs to be changed! There are plenty of other things that could be "corrected". Really, they should just scrap the whole thing!
The second amendment is an integral part of our country. Without private ownership of firearms, there would be no America, without people speaking out against the abuses of the king of England, there would have been no support for the declaration of Independence from england. Our constitution IS America, without it, we would not be America.
Amendment III
No soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law.
He has kept among us, in times of peace, standing armies without the consent of our legislature.
He has affected to render the military independent of and superior to civil power.
For quartering large bodies of armed troops among us
Amendment V
No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when in actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.
Amendment VI
In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the state and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the assistance of counsel for his defense.
Amendment VII
In suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed twenty dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no fact tried by a jury, shall be otherwise reexamined in any court of the United States, than according to the rules of the common law.
He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his assent to their acts of pretended legislation:
For protecting them, by mock trial, from punishment for any murders which they should commit on the inhabitants of these states:
For depriving us in many cases, of the benefits of trial by jury:
For transporting us beyond seas to be tried for pretended offenses:
Amendment IV
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized
He has plundered our seas, ravaged our coasts, burned our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.
For imposing taxes on us without our consent:
Amendment IX
The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
Amendment X
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.
He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected; whereby the legislative powers, incapable of annihilation, have returned to the people at large for their exercise; the state remaining in the meantime exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.
He has endeavored to prevent the population of these states; for that purpose obstructing the laws for naturalization of foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migration hither, and raising the conditions of new appropriations of lands.
For taking away our charters, abolishing our most valuable laws, and altering fundamentally the forms of our governments:
For suspending our own legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.
He has abdicated government here, by declaring us out of his protection and waging war against us.
In every stage of these oppressions we have petitioned for redress in the most humble terms: our repeated petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A prince, whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.
We, therefore, the representatives of the United States of America, in General Congress, assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the name, and by the authority of the good people of these colonies, solemnly publish and declare, that these united colonies are, and of right ought to be free and independent states; that they are absolved from all allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the state of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as free and independent states, they have full power to levy war, conclude peace, contract alliances, establish commerce, and to do all other acts and things which independent states may of right do. And for the support of this declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.
The united states owes its very existence to the Constitution. We were an oppressed people, and decided enough was enough. We pulled away from a ruthless ruler and took it upon ourselves to keep the oppression from happening again against the peoples of the United states. Our constitution is a direct result of the king of England's failure to grant us what We needed to succeed.
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Being a rapist doesn't necessarily mean being stupid.
I learned a long time ago (but have apparently forgotten...) that liberals have no sense of humor. It's one of the major reasons that Al Franken's Radio America ultra-libbo talk show tanked so spectacularly. All they did all the time was go berserk about any and all conservative ideas. Meantime, over on the blowhard Limbaugh's show, at least they poke fun at themselves but also at the lib/Dems.
To paraphrase Mr. Obama a few weeks ago, "Who wants a bunch of gang members running around the streets with AK rifles?" Who indeed. 
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No it ain't.
