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Old 10-29-2008, 01:40 PM
 
Location: Between Philadelphia and Allentown, PA
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I see both sides of it but agree with the OP that if you can join the military at 18, they can certainly drink (and I assure you that they do). On the flip side, I have two kids, one is 20 and one is 18. They are both mature enough to drink but I don't condone it because of the current law. There are kids though that are 18 and definitely not in control of their actions and should not be introduced to alcohol. So, I'm torn.

 
Old 10-29-2008, 01:55 PM
 
Location: Miami
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If we didn't make things like drinking alcohol, smoking, porn, sex, etc such a taboo subject as we make it here in this country. Children wouldn't have a curiosity like they do have about these things. Its like keeping something away from a toddler, if they see they can't have something, its more enticing knowing that they are not allowed to have it. Its the same thing with alcohol, put the limit at 21 and you will have more people binge drinking, because they want something they are not legally allowed to have. I look back now, and when I was under age, I saw it as a thrill sort of, of drinking and the posiblility of getting caught or kicked out of a bar. But put it at a lower age (take away that thrill), and having parents exposing their children to sips of wine, beer etc at younger ages, stops that curiosity later (binge drinking) later on. But sheltering our children (which Americans are doing) is what is causing the problem.
 
Old 10-29-2008, 07:12 PM
 
Location: MA
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in france the age is 16, but is there more teen drinking deaths? more drinking and driving incidents? no! of course not!!

dude.... this is AMERICA.... you cant compare us to France. We Americans are crazyyyy. Personally, i think kids are gonna drink anyway, regardless of the age... and they do. Lowering the age would just cause them to do it more openly and go to bars.

I think the real problem is Bars. People blame young kids for drinking but really all these old ppl who go to bars are pretty much wasted when their done, and they drive home fine. I think all bars should have a Cab service for people who drink. Like really idk why they dont have those. You'd think they would make those seeing how strict they are on alcohal consumption.

PERSONALLY I THINK DRINKING IS POINTLESS, LIFE RUINING, AND A STUPID DANGEROUS THING TO DO.

I'd rather have prohibition.
 
Old 10-29-2008, 08:35 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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PERSONALLY I THINK DRINKING IS POINTLESS, LIFE RUINING, AND A STUPID DANGEROUS THING TO DO.

I'd rather have prohibition.
Please - tell us all - you were / are kidding with the above statement - aren't you??????
 
Old 10-29-2008, 11:08 PM
 
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I'd rather have prohibition.
Because it worked so well the first time?
 
Old 10-29-2008, 11:10 PM
 
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If you can try minors as adults for criminal acts, it is ridiculous to assume that they cannot have a drink until 21. Doesn't the phrase go, with freedom, comes responsibility? I see more responsibility than freedom with our laws...
 
Old 10-31-2008, 10:48 AM
 
Location: Between Philadelphia and Allentown, PA
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If we didn't make things like drinking alcohol, smoking, porn, sex, etc such a taboo subject as we make it here in this country. Children wouldn't have a curiosity like they do have about these things. Its like keeping something away from a toddler, if they see they can't have something, its more enticing knowing that they are not allowed to have it. Its the same thing with alcohol, put the limit at 21 and you will have more people binge drinking, because they want something they are not legally allowed to have. I look back now, and when I was under age, I saw it as a thrill sort of, of drinking and the posiblility of getting caught or kicked out of a bar. But put it at a lower age (take away that thrill), and having parents exposing their children to sips of wine, beer etc at younger ages, stops that curiosity later (binge drinking) later on. But sheltering our children (which Americans are doing) is what is causing the problem.
I comletely agree with you and this is the same advice I've been giving to parent (friends of mine) for years. As soon as you make something unreachable for a child, they are going to go out of their way to make it their business. It's called human nature. Take the mystery out of it and wallah! You have nothing to be interested in. I have friends who have kids my ages and still (even though I've said this a hundred times) can't figure out why their kid is in trouble all the time. I tell them (over and over) it's because you are being naieve (sp?) in thinking that your teenager can do no wrong. They do and they will! <sigh> Ohh if only I ran the world LOL (JUST kidding).
 
Old 10-31-2008, 02:14 PM
 
Location: Aiken S.C
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If we didn't make things like drinking alcohol, smoking, porn, sex, etc such a taboo subject as we make it here in this country. Children wouldn't have a curiosity like they do have about these things. Its like keeping something away from a toddler, if they see they can't have something, its more enticing knowing that they are not allowed to have it. Its the same thing with alcohol, put the limit at 21 and you will have more people binge drinking, because they want something they are not legally allowed to have. I look back now, and when I was under age, I saw it as a thrill sort of, of drinking and the posiblility of getting caught or kicked out of a bar. But put it at a lower age (take away that thrill), and having parents exposing their children to sips of wine, beer etc at younger ages, stops that curiosity later (binge drinking) later on. But sheltering our children (which Americans are doing) is what is causing the problem.
I guess i'll go buy my little kid a six pack a porn mag and a deck of smokes pin 20 bucks to his shirt and wish him the best of luck??? are you kidding?????
 
Old 11-01-2008, 01:18 PM
 
Location: Iowa
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I guess i'll go buy my little kid a six pack a porn mag and a deck of smokes pin 20 bucks to his shirt and wish him the best of luck??? are you kidding?????
that isn't what doggiebus meant when they said that. I understand their point. Just look at some of the highly religious families out there that shelter their kids from everything in the world (no offense meant to anyone who may be religious) When their children are exposed to the real world it's a shock.

I can also understand the other side of the arguement as well, but one thing i have learned from watching friends raise children is that whenever you tell a child "do not do/say/act (insert what you like here)" do not makes them want to do it more.
 
Old 11-02-2008, 12:58 PM
 
Location: Exit 14C
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Its 18 here in the UK and its a real mess. Drink culture is out of control. I think 21 is a much better age, now that I have seen both sides, and I dont think the age limit should be lowered. 18 yr old are really not responsible enough. You dont realize this until you have grown up enough to look back and see.
I'm in my 40s, and I think it should be lowered to 13.
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