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Old 01-13-2009, 06:03 PM
 
Location: Washington DC
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We live very civilized lives here in Phoenix, Las Vegas, Denver, Santa Fe
Enjoy your concept of "civilization". Leave us alone to enjoy ours.
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Old 01-13-2009, 06:16 PM
 
Location: North Beach, MD on the Chesapeake
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Enjoy your concept of "civilization". Leave us alone to enjoy ours.

Ahhh yes, Eastern elitism at it's best.
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Old 01-13-2009, 06:24 PM
 
Location: Maine
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Only New York, Chicago, Boston, San Francisco, etc. Where civilized people live civilized lives. But even if we were the only place that wanted our gun law, we should be governed by those laws we pass.
City folks civilized? Right, that's why all the major crime centers are large cities. I'll stick with my country bumpkin lifestyle, thank you very much.
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Old 01-13-2009, 06:30 PM
 
Location: Washington DC
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Ahhh yes, Eastern elitism at it's best.
Whatever. Let the West set it's reasonable restrictions on guns and the East, although San Francisco and Chicago don't really fit the descriptions, will set its reasonable restrictions.
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Old 01-13-2009, 06:31 PM
 
Location: Washington DC
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City folks civilized? Right, that's why all the major crime centers are large cities. I'll stick with my country bumpkin lifestyle, thank you very much.
Enjoy your lifestyle.
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Old 01-13-2009, 06:56 PM
 
Location: Northglenn, Colorado
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It was "we the people" not "they the government". The District gun bans enjoy wide public support, which inflames the NRA no end.
so if the peoples of D.C. decided to reinstate segregation, prohibition, and settle on words that cannot be spoken in public they should?

I'm sorry, but the Rights guaranteed in the constitution are not a pick and choose, they are there, like it or not. You cannot take ones rights because a small group of people decide that they are not needed.
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Old 01-13-2009, 06:57 PM
 
Location: Northglenn, Colorado
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We trespass on no significant rights. We abide by the Supreme Court Rulings.

No merely the most civilized.
Rights are rights, there are not any insignificant rights, only rights.
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Old 01-13-2009, 07:04 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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Rights are rights, there are not any insignificant rights, only rights.
EXACTLY!!!
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Old 01-13-2009, 07:12 PM
 
Location: Washington DC
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Rights are rights, there are not any insignificant rights, only rights.
That correct and the rights affirmed by the Supreme Court, we affirm. For those left to the discretion of the local government, we exercise our discretion.
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Old 01-13-2009, 07:35 PM
 
Location: Northglenn, Colorado
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That correct and the rights affirmed by the Supreme Court, we affirm. For those left to the discretion of the local government, we exercise our discretion.
The second amendment is not a local right, it is a Federaly garenteed right. Anyone passing laws against it are unconstitutional.

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

that last part garentees it, passing any law to infringe on ones right to own, and bear arms is just that, an unconstitutional infringement on ones rights garenteed in our constitution. It would be like me going and telling you that you can no longer speak against our government, because it may encite violence. This would also be an infringement on your first amendment. The important part of that amendment is in the begining.


Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

The supreme court is not there to judge if it is a right or not. It is put in place to protect and rule on laws wether they are unconstitutional or not. The constitution is set in stone in terms of the supreme court. Sure it can be added to, but the supreme court cannot do the additions, they can only weigh laws against what is already written in the constitution.

The constitution is a restriction on what the government can do to the people of the united states. There are no rights given to government in the bill or rights only to the people.
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