U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Great Debates
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
 
 
Old 11-03-2008, 10:50 AM
 
Location: Miami, FL / Raleigh, NC
978 posts, read 1,869,161 times
Reputation: 600

Advertisements

Seriously, I do not think we really need to worry about communism in this country regardless of what the fear mongers keep stating in the media.

A modern form of fascism on the other hand, I am definitely more concerned of. In fact, we are seeing a gradual shift towards that direction and many people do not even realize it. One just has to look at the characteristics of a fascism government similiar to Germany with Hitler and the direction our policies.

Fascism is basically a totalitarian nationalist ideology that has the following characteristics:
* NATIONALISM (PATRIOTISM; Look at our banking system it is going in that direction)
* MILITARISM ( It is usually done with FEAR on an enemy. )Enemy could also be the american people if it threatens change.

* CORPORATISM (LOOK AT THE POLICIES THAT ARE BEING PASSED)Those are really the folks behind self-serving policies being passed.

If this country changes in another direction it would probably be something like a Democratic Socialist form of government or a modern day Fascism. It seems we are moving towards fascism faster than Democratic Socialist.
Communist, no way. With the Corporate influence in this country NO WAY, that is why FASCISM is very realistic.
Quick reply to this message

 
Old 11-03-2008, 03:07 PM
 
Location: Fredericksburg, Va
5,119 posts, read 12,713,147 times
Reputation: 7205
Scary, isn't it? That's why folks need to be so concerned with, not the president, but the CONGRESS!! We need strong, non-career folks looking out for us. Folks who will put the brakes on anything not expressed in our Constitution. So far, that''s not happening.
Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-03-2008, 03:41 PM
 
Location: NYC area
3,486 posts, read 4,937,867 times
Reputation: 3848
Quote:
Originally Posted by cb at sea View Post
Scary, isn't it? That's why folks need to be so concerned with, not the president, but the CONGRESS!! We need strong, non-career folks looking out for us. Folks who will put the brakes on anything not expressed in our Constitution.
Actually, that's not Congress' job -- that's the courts' job, among other things.
Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-03-2008, 04:14 PM
 
Location: Orlando
8,221 posts, read 10,946,004 times
Reputation: 4022
Quote:
Originally Posted by observer View Post
Seriously, I do not think we really need to worry about communism in this country regardless of what the fear mongers keep stating in the media.

A modern form of fascism on the other hand, I am definitely more concerned of. In fact, we are seeing a gradual shift towards that direction and many people do not even realize it. One just has to look at the characteristics of a fascism government similiar to Germany with Hitler and the direction our policies.

Fascism is basically a totalitarian nationalist ideology that has the following characteristics:
* NATIONALISM (PATRIOTISM; Look at our banking system it is going in that direction)
* MILITARISM ( It is usually done with FEAR on an enemy. )Enemy could also be the american people if it threatens change.

* CORPORATISM (LOOK AT THE POLICIES THAT ARE BEING PASSED)Those are really the folks behind self-serving policies being passed.

If this country changes in another direction it would probably be something like a Democratic Socialist form of government or a modern day Fascism. It seems we are moving towards fascism faster than Democratic Socialist.
Communist, no way. With the Corporate influence in this country NO WAY, that is why FASCISM is very realistic.

Your concerns are right on the money. But you missed the Patriot Act
Suspension of Habeous Corpus
confiscation of guns in New Orleans.
and all the other rights that have been removed.
Do we mention the the coup d'etat in 2000 with the voter fraud in Florida?

Facism is real and we are closer than most realize. We need to restore the Constitution but the primary parties won't do it hence why its Nader for me.
Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-03-2008, 06:18 PM
 
1,435 posts, read 3,505,889 times
Reputation: 524
Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-03-2008, 10:16 PM
 
Location: The Netherlands
8,567 posts, read 14,514,836 times
Reputation: 1573
Originally posted by Jeff Jarrett

Ah Yes, the simplistic reaction that if you criticize America you can only be a communist.
Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-04-2008, 06:14 AM
 
Location: The Woods
16,454 posts, read 21,465,702 times
Reputation: 8410
Dailymotion - Yuri Bezmenov, a video from onmyway02. bezmenov, KGB, yuri, soviet, marxism

Yuri Bezmenov, KGB defector to the West, in a 1985 interview.
Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-04-2008, 01:01 PM
 
878 posts, read 1,845,775 times
Reputation: 460
Fascism is a very real concern, look at the promises made by the party that want to gain control of our country.

Government control of industry & the economy.
Limitations on free speech.
Civilian "police force."
Isolationism.
Excessive voter fraud.

The fascist/socialist policies of the American Left are a very real and very frightening threat to the freedoms that we have.
Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-05-2008, 10:54 AM
 
Location: San Diego
2,518 posts, read 1,844,514 times
Reputation: 1298
No, Communism didn't kill those people, DICTATORS did. Stalin, Mao and the rest were not Communists at all, but dictators who used the word "Communism" to gain support of the people who they were going to oppress. In Scandanavia they have a closer approximation to Communism than Stalinist Russia and it's a near-perfect society up there. But that "Red Fear" BS is even more pathetic now because the whole "Red Scare" ended 2 decades ago...
Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-05-2008, 10:58 AM
 
Location: San Diego
2,518 posts, read 1,844,514 times
Reputation: 1298
Quote:
Originally Posted by zman0 View Post
Fascism is a very real concern, look at the promises made by the party that want to gain control of our country.

Government control of industry & the economy.
Limitations on free speech.
Civilian "police force."
Isolationism.
Excessive voter fraud.

The fascist/socialist policies of the American Left are a very real and very frightening threat to the freedoms that we have.
You mean the American RIGHT, right? Because all of those have been dome by the GOP and this Fascist government of the past 8 years. Election in 2000, clearly voter fraud. PATRIOT ACT limits free speech, the bailout (and the war in Iraq) were for government control of industry and the economy and we're isolated (refusing to talk to anyone who isn't our friend IS isolationism) more than before. [MOD CUT]

Last edited by Ibginnie; 11-06-2008 at 01:20 PM.. Reason: personal attack
Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


 
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:
Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Great Debates
Similar Threads
Follow City-Data.com founder on our Forum or

All times are GMT -6.

2005-2018, Advameg, Inc.

City-Data.com - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35 - Top