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Old 11-05-2008, 10:44 PM
 
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And for that matter, all other racially based organizations for so-called "minorities", that were once intended to thwart "institutional racism"? If not, I'd like to hear why.
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Old 11-05-2008, 10:50 PM
 
Location: southern california
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NAACP advances only afro americans aka descendants of american slaves. not any other group of people. its not even a racially based organization. it has no interest in civil rights defense for any other group other than afro americans. the name is misleading it says it is for people of color, not so. i see no need to disband it, but seeing it for what it is, that is the important part.
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Old 11-05-2008, 11:44 PM
 
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Why disband it? The fact the Obama won is HUGE. The reason it's huge is because he's black. If he were white, he'd be the 44th white President in a country that is over 200 years old. Blacks, like women, have been oppressed groups in this country. And historically oppressed groups need all of the organizations that they can get to aid them in their climb to equality. I live in Chicago about 15 miles from Barack. A city that overwhelmingly voted for Barack. Yet, I see racism every day, even here. So if you think racism is now over because he was elected, you're wrong. His win did show that there are enough non blacks in this country that will vote for who they think is the best candidate, regardless of skin color. It also gives black youth the reality that they can actually become the President. Barack exemplifies everything our society has been preaching to blacks and non blacks alike. Get an education. Do well in school. Apply yourself and you can be anything you want to be. Even the President. But it's much more powerful now because a black man actually won. This won't heal all racism. But this event is a monumental thing for black and non-racists like me who are not black. The NAACP is an organization that non blacks should support. Why not? Slaves helped build the White House and now their labors at least have meaning.
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Old 11-06-2008, 07:20 AM
 
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Slaves helped build the White House and now their labors at least have meaning.
Senator Obama's ancestors were not slaves. They owned them.

http://www.suntimes.com/news/548552,CST-NWS-otreemain09.article (broken link)
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Old 11-06-2008, 07:52 AM
 
Location: In a house
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Its a racist organization period.
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Old 11-06-2008, 09:10 AM
 
Location: Ottawa, Canada
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yeah, the point of these organization is what??positive discrimination?? trying to stop rascism? how? by convincing everyone that black people arent bad???

the probelm is crime now. when you look at the amount in jail, no wonder people are rascist. there prison population is what? 50% black? while only making up 16% of the population?

the problem is not that however, its poverty. theres a direct correlation between poverty, drug use and crime, and thts where its highest. you want to stop rascism? start by trying to reduce poverty.
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Old 11-06-2008, 09:20 AM
 
Location: Cary, NC
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IIRC, the NAACP is a private organization.

How many here are dues-paying members and have a vote in that abolition of a private organization?

How many think that one man in office cures racism in the country?

How many know someone who has been a yellow dog Democrat all their life and just all of a sudden found a Republican they were comfortable with?

I don't support Obama's politics.
And I don't think for a minute I have a right to say the NAACP should be abolished because one man made President.

I support freedom and liberty, and that includes the right of the membership of the NAACP to freely assemble.
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Old 11-06-2008, 09:45 AM
 
Location: NYC area
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And for that matter, all other racially based organizations for so-called "minorities", that were once intended to thwart "institutional racism"? If not, I'd like to hear why.
Here's why: because of the First Amendment. People are free to organize for whatever reason they wish (other than committing crimes or putting on an armed rebellion), and you are free to bash them to your heart's content. The most you can do against a non-profit is revoke its tax-exempt status; but even that would be a tall order when it comes to the NAACP. No government in the US has the authority to abolish a private organization.
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Old 11-06-2008, 09:53 AM
 
Location: Cary, NC
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Here's why: because of the First Amendment. People are free to organize for whatever reason they wish (other than committing crimes or putting on an armed rebellion), and you are free to bash them to your heart's content. The most you can do against a non-profit is revoke its tax-exempt status; but even that would be a tall order when it comes to the NAACP. No government in the US has the authority to abolish a private organization.
Well said.
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Old 11-06-2008, 10:33 AM
 
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I found this interesting site: (westernstandard.ca/blogs) It's a Canadian blog, seems to be pretty Libertarian, which is kind of unusual in Canada I think. They are so "obedient" to their vast government. Anyways, you need to bring up and read the article in the link I provided, and then read one of the better comments from one of the contributors. Seems like it might all apply to our new presidential situation. Which, if true, is a sad commentary.

BTW, the article seems to me to apply to the OP as it addresses the issue of black rights, their overall societal opinion and value, and the organization that stands up for them. The comments to the article I link to also address some real-time evaluations. I don't think the commentor is being "racist", just "realist". You may disagree.



Western Standard


The resulting comment (which is also posted on the above blog site, FYI) is:



[/quote] If you think black people are going to stop their whining now that they have a black president in the USA, ... consider the never-ending whining from Quebec, the province that has produced more Canadian prime ministers than any other province.


Some people just see themselves as losers and victims and there is little you can do other than give them more free 'other peoples money' or (preferably) a good whack upside the head along with a stern warning that it's time to grow up.



(thotful1's interjection: didn't Bill Cosby try this approach in speaking to his own people, by they really didn't want internal criticism, especially from such a notable?)



If Obama doesn't win the next election that will be interpreted as a slap in the face to black people and the whining will be intensified and more bold.
Multiculturalism does not work in any situation. Like socialism, it fails everywhere it is tried. Human nature dictates that likes attract and others will always be mistrusted. That is in our genes. Of course on the Left science is a matter of consensus and not reality.


America has three distinct cultures competing right now, Black, Hispanic and what's left of the sorry white American culture. To make a weakened case for whitey, there is the San Francisco culture that is spreading on both coasts clashing heavily against what's left of the traditional free god fearing, hard working freedom loving and well-armed folk who are everywhere but mostly in fly over country.
The American society is a mess from top to bottom and we have liberalism to blame for most of it.
I smell an eventual second civil war.
Posted by: John V (http://www.typepad.com/t/comments?__mode=red&user_id=22305&id=137988366 - broken link) | 6-Nov-08 9:05:06 AM[/quote]

Last edited by thotful1; 11-06-2008 at 10:46 AM.. Reason: better understanding
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