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Old 11-11-2008, 01:38 PM
Location: San Diego
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Originally Posted by elvislives View Post
Listen not knocking your taste in music but anyone can rap it takes little time and no effort.. Try learning an instrument.
That is such BS. Have you ever seen white people rap? Rapping, especially mixing it with a good backround music and writing lyrics takes more talent than you will ever have. I can play guitar, bass guitar, trumpet, piano, cello and am a singer, but I cannot rap. Rapping is a very hard thing to do, try to freestyle something coherent that also makes people feel the beat. I guarantee you can't do it.
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Old 11-11-2008, 01:44 PM
Location: Aiken S.C
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LMAO rapping is so skillful.....NOTORIOUS BIG....

"Me & My *****"
[SIZE=1](feat. Puff Daddy)[/SIZE]

[Puff Daddy]
Yo let, let, let me ask you a question yo
Yo would you kill for me?
Hmmm... yeah
[Puff Daddy]
What took you so long to answer mother****er?
I don't know
[Puff Daddy]
The **** wrong with you *****?

[Verse One: Notorious B.I.G.]

When I met you I admit my first thoughts was to trick
You look so good huh, I suck on your daddy's dick (yeah)
I never felt that way in my life
It didn't take long before I made you my wife (uh, yeah)
Got no rings and ****, just my main squeeze
Come into the crib, even had a set a keys
During the days you helped me bag up my nickels
In the process, I admit, I tricked a little (yeah)
But you was my *****, the one who'd never snitch (uhh)
Love me when I'm broke or when I'm filthy ****in rich
And I admit, when the time is right, the wine is right
I treat you right, you talk slick, I beat you right

[Chorus: Notorious B.I.G.]

Just me and my ***** [variations repeat to next verse]

But you know you love that ass, don't you?
[Puff Daddy]
Yeah, no question
No question
[Puff Daddy]
Yo, let me ask you another question
[Puff Daddy]
You ever **** around on me?
Why would I do that?
[Puff Daddy]
Yo don't lie to me mother****er
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Old 11-11-2008, 01:46 PM
Location: Aiken S.C
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Lots of talentless hacks passing off doo doo as roses
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Old 11-11-2008, 01:46 PM
Location: Wichita,Kansas
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[quote=leftydan6;6114473]That is such BS. Have you ever seen white people rap? Eminem,Everlast,House of Pain,Lordz of Brooklyn,3rd Base..
Vanilla Ice

I wouldnt say rapping is easy but i would hardly compare it to writing..
A piece of Music,playing the piano.

I think some rap takes alot of skill ..Pete Rock,Public Enemy..etc
But todays rap is pretty horrible.

We have been robbed of great black music in the last 10-20 years..
Because rap has taken over everything.
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Old 11-11-2008, 01:52 PM
Location: Aiken S.C
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Real black poetry...BARRY WHITE.....
When the temperature dips
I miss my baby's arms
Her tender finger tips
Knows just how to keep me warm

It may be zero degrees
With the snow falling down
But I've got warm and tender love
Just as long as she's around

It may be winter outside
But in my heart it's spring
How much joy and pleasure Baby
Can one girl bring me

Winter Nights can be awful cold
Without someone to hold
But when I have her next to me
Baby, I'm in ecstasy
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Old 11-11-2008, 03:07 PM
Location: San Diego
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From Tupac Shakur - Me Against the World
With all this extra stressin
The question I wonder is after death, after my last breath
When will I finaly get to rest? Through this supression
they punish the people that's askin questions
And those that possess, steal from the ones without possesions
The message I stress: to make it stop study your lessons
Don't settle for less - even the genius asks-es questions
Be grateful for blessings
Don't ever change, keep your essence
The power is in the people and politics we address
Always do your best, don't let the pressure make you panic
And when you get stranded
And things don't go the way you planned it
Dreamin of riches, in a position of makin a difference
Politicians and hypocrites, they don't wanna listen
If I'm insane, it's the fame made a brother change
It wasn't nuttin like the game
It's just me against the world.
Mos Def/Talib Kweli - Blackstar - Children's Story

Once upon a time not long ago
When people wore adidas and lived life slow
When laws were stern and justice stood
And people was behavin' like hip-hop was good
There lived a little boy who was misled
By a little sha-tan and this is what he said
"me and you kid we gonna make some cash,
Jackin' old beats and makin' the dash..."
They jacked the beats, money came wit' ease
But son, he couldn't stop, it's like he had a disease
He jacked another and another, michael jackson, stevie wonder
Set some r & b over the track for 'deep cover' (187!)
The kid got wild startin' actin' erratic
He said "yo, that presidential I got ta have it..."
With liquor in his belly son, he made up the track
But little did he know that his joints was wack
The shiny a & r said "great new hit g!"
"whenever you need a loop, yo come get me..."
The kid got amped and he starts to figure
"i'm-a get dough like all-a these otha *****z!"
So, he's in the studio workin' 'round the clock
For pop radio, jacked the beat to 'planet rock'
Was out in the street when he met this sister
Who couldn't sing for shhhh but the mix wit' her sister
Hooked up the track and in excitation
He decided he'd head for the radio station
But (but!) he was runnin' and he made a left
Was skeezin' at top speed and ran into mos def
I slowed the young man down and I started: "yo money,
Yo, why you sellin' lies to our wives and children? "
He ran upstairs up to the top floor
Opened up the door then guess what he saw? (who? )
Jane the chickenhead radio host
Who be yappin' 'bout beef between east and west coast
He said "this one's a bullet, you got ta give it run!"
The chicken said "thanks." and spanked it #1
He went outside, was gettin' props all over
Then he dipped into his ride, the 4-point rover
Raced up the block doin' 83
Some cats with hennessey saw him at a r-e-d
He winked his eye like his star status mattered
They rat-a-tat-tatted to make his blood splatter
"you rockin' crazy ice and all you do is cling static
And rollin' down to brooklyn late night is problematic..."
His eyes was bloody red, he hung on every word they said
They told the kid "back down, that playa **** is dead."
Deep in his heart, he knew he was gone
But he grabbed his 45 and decide to blaze on
Wit' shades on founded had him astounded an'
Before long, the young man got surrounded
Those grabbed the guns, so goes the glory
And that is the way I got ta end this story
He was out chasin' cream and the american dream
Tryin' to pretend the ends justify the means
This ain't funny so don't you dare laugh
It's just what comes to pass when you sell your ass
Life is more than what your hands can grasp
Good night!

Just because some of it sucks, doesn't mean it all sucks. This is how people justify racism, they take one example that most of the others are not proud of, and use that as their image of the rest. People say "rap is all about violence, drugs and sex", but a lot of rap is an outcry of emotion, or a stand against the system, or sometimes even a proclamation of love ("Dear Mama" - 2pac). Though I don't like heavy metal or country, I do understand that there are some merits to both genres and in 20 years after the smoke clears, there will be a few very valuable contributions to the Canon of American Music.

I hate all those lame rappers that can't be told apart from one another as well. But Motown did the same thing, they had some amazing stars, and then a bunch of copies. Ditto for Grunge, Heavy Metal, Punk, Psychadelic, Disco and Twist. A lot of the music we hear is just being turned around for a quick buck by the corporations. The artists who are still around 15 years from now will be the ones that will define the era/genres. The "bling song of the week" or the "stripper song of the week" will not stand the test of time, or even 2 years. But that does not mean all music from that genre is just as worthless. Keep in mind, the charts are dictated by stupid high schoolers who have attention spans of 3.5 minutes and the memory of a gnat. Look at the "College Music" charts to see the music that will stand the test of time.
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Old 11-11-2008, 04:19 PM
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Indie and Folk are where it's at. Listen to some of Neko Case's solo work and tell me if you still think music is dead!

And because someone mentioned him, I must say that I adore Richard Thompson!
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Old 11-11-2008, 04:30 PM
Location: Ottawa, Canada
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look dan. jsut because each rapper has 1 or 2 songs that arent about killing, selling drgus, dropping out, ect. doesnt mean the genre is "good" and certainly means its more tasteless and crapier than rock.

and who was the idiot who said about the mixing music? isnt that what a djs for?? how many rapers actually write thier own music? then play it >?
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Old 11-11-2008, 05:59 PM
Location: MI
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No music hasn't died......... AC DC just came out with a new CD.
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Old 11-11-2008, 06:09 PM
Location: NJ
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Originally Posted by elvislives View Post
Has music finally died it seems like there is no effort anymore to make good music it's just the same old cookie cutter regurgitated junk. I see a lot of old bands coming out of "retirement" to make a few bucks but thats about it. Or maybe i am
just finally getting old.
That's because you're only looking at what is mainstream. Look elsewhere I know tons of great bands. Listening to the radio is only listening to whatever the media is telling you is good.
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