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Old 02-27-2009, 07:41 AM
 
Location: Montrose, CA
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Lower income families live in concentrated inner city areas. Ther IS no fresh fruit/veggie grocery store in their neighborhood but there IS a Mcdonalds etc... They follwed a family in this situation and it took a 45 minute ride to find a tomato. You can find guns and drugs but not a tomato. Unbelievable.
Baloney. What you're claiming is that within a circle that is 1.5 hours in diameter there are NO fresh vegetables to be found. Even if you're only driving 30mph that is a circle 45 miles across! That's about 1590 SQUARE MILES that you're saying hasn't a single fresh vegetable for sale in it.

Maybe if that was in outer Siberia, sure. But certainly not in any urban or suburban area in the USA.
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Old 02-27-2009, 07:59 AM
 
Location: Columbus, OH
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if there is anything to "blame" for the obesity problem in america, its the mentality that there must be something to blame. It could not possibly be that obese people are irresponsible and always go for whatever is cheapest and easiest regardless of its nutritional content, no. it must be society, society was supposed to stop them from going and eating fast food. why wasn't someone there to protect them from themselves?!?! how were they to know that deep fried food was bad for them??

you wanna know whose to blame for obesity in america, the obese and their friends/family who let them get to the point they are at. I mean when someone gets to the point where they can no longer buy a pair of pants at the mall, someone should have stepped in and told them flat to their face that they need to lose weight.
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Old 02-27-2009, 08:05 AM
 
Location: Back in New York
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I am sure its been mentioned in the thread but the increase in carbs is primarly responsible. PPL refuse to except that carbs are making them fat because its easier to deny it and continue to eat sugar, pasta, and bread then it is to actually suck it up and do the right thing for your body.

I also think there is lack of education. If they actually knew what sugar did to their bodies when its consumed they would change their mind.
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Old 02-27-2009, 08:10 AM
 
Location: Montrose, CA
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I am sure its been mentioned in the thread but the increase in carbs is primarly responsible.
It's not so much WHAT you eat, as HOW MUCH you eat. Studies have proven this. Carbs are not evil!
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Old 02-27-2009, 04:22 PM
 
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Baloney. What you're claiming is that within a circle that is 1.5 hours in diameter there are NO fresh vegetables to be found. Even if you're only driving 30mph that is a circle 45 miles across! That's about 1590 SQUARE MILES that you're saying hasn't a single fresh vegetable for sale in it.

Maybe if that was in outer Siberia, sure. But certainly not in any urban or suburban area in the USA.
Well then you should write CNN and tell them so. I'm sure you are better at investigative journalism than they are so I'll take YOUR word for it. It is an INNER CITY in New York. They didn't have a car so they had to take 2 buses and a cab. It cost them 45minutes each way and about 15 dollars total.

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Old 02-27-2009, 04:55 PM
 
Location: Under a bridge.
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People are fat because they eat too many calories. If you eat too many calories of "healthy" foods, you will be fat. If you eat too many calories of "unhealthy" foods, you will be fat. If you eat too many calories of "expensive" foods you will be fat. If you eat too many calories of "cheap" foods, you will be fat.

The ONLY thing that makes people fat is eating too many calories. Obesity is caused by eating too much--Each person has the abilty to eat or not eat--it is their choice. Poor diets caused by poverty do not make people fat...they may cause a large number of problems..but fatness is not caused that way. ONLY eating too many calories. Each person is responsible for the calories they eat. Each and every fat person has the choice to eat more calories than they burn, or to not eat them. If they did not eat them, they would not be fat.

So the person to blame for obesity in America, are the obese people themselves.
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Old 02-27-2009, 06:03 PM
 
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Forks!

If guns kill people, then using that logic it is clear that forks cause obesity, with spoons and knives as accomplices
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Old 02-27-2009, 09:52 PM
 
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Forks!

If guns kill people, then using that logic it is clear that forks cause obesity, with spoons and knives as accomplices
Hahahahahaha!
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Old 02-27-2009, 10:35 PM
 
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Well then you should write CNN and tell them so. I'm sure you are better at investigative journalism than they are so I'll take YOUR word for it.
I would too. CNN is a joke.

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It is an INNER CITY in New York. They didn't have a car so they had to take 2 buses and a cab. It cost them 45minutes each way and about 15 dollars
....ie we're talking about ONE area in ONE city in the entire country.



Not buying they "had to" take a cab either, or that this in any way justified eating fast food a lot regardless. Sorry.
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Old 02-27-2009, 10:43 PM
 
Location: The Shires
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I blame America for America's obesity problem.

Face it, there's a McDonalds & Burger King on every damn corner. Truly healthy food is expensive and they put all kinds of crap in processed food.

Most of our towns and cities are anything *but* walkable. The car is king in pretty much every American city.

It's easy to blame the individuals themselves, but we should all shoulder some of the blame for creating a society which is geared towards being obese and unhealthy.

Some individuals are to blame, but it's really not as black and white as some of you may think.
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