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Old 03-17-2009, 01:15 PM
 
Location: New York
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There is a very simple solution for this, and your points almost touch on it. Instead of everyone's health care costs going up, just charge more to overweight people! If eating unhealthy costs people extra money, they have the choice to pay or get in shape. It seems like a simple fix to me!
For the sake of argument let's look at your suggestion as a way to go. It's easier said than done. Charging more is not difficult. Collecting more is another story. A lot of these people (not all) aren't paying for health care, rather they use government - assisted programs or eventually unpaid ER visits. Many accumulate health care costs but can't/don't pay and file bankruptcy. I'm not saying that this is the case with everyone, but it is with significant numbers and is some of why everyone ends up paying. So charging more doesn't solve it in my opinion.
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Old 03-17-2009, 01:18 PM
 
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For the sake of argument let's look at your suggestion as a way to go. It's easier said than done. Charging more is not difficult. Collecting more is another story. A lot of these people (not all) aren't paying for health care, rather they use government - assisted programs or eventually unpaid ER visits. Many accumulate health care costs but can't/don't pay and file bankruptcy. I'm not saying that this is the case with everyone, but it is with significant numbers and is some of why everyone ends up paying. So charging more doesn't solve it in my opinion.
If you want to talk about why I don't think we should have government assistance for social welfare programs, I would love to, however it might be a little off topic for this particular thread
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Old 03-17-2009, 02:38 PM
 
Location: In the heights
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Mandatory fat camps where they do hard labor and eat healthy.
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Old 03-17-2009, 02:55 PM
 
Location: Under a bridge.
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Mandatory fat camps where they do hard labor and eat healthy.
Remember the Nazi's camp slogan, "Work Will Make You Free." I don't think mandatory anything is a good idea--unless it is prison for convicted felons.
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Old 03-17-2009, 03:01 PM
 
Location: In the heights
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Oh, in that case, I guess we'll just have to make obesity a felony.

(in case no one caught it, this is sarcasm)
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Old 03-17-2009, 04:15 PM
 
Location: Under a bridge.
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Oh, in that case, I guess we'll just have to make obesity a felony.

(in case no one caught it, this is sarcasm)
and while we're at it let's make a few more things felonies....
I'm gonna start a thread on that....
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Old 03-17-2009, 09:39 PM
 
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Remember the Nazi's camp slogan, "Work Will Make You Free." I don't think mandatory anything is a good idea--unless it is prison for convicted felons.
So you don't believe that:

- misdemeanors should be illegal?
- any one should have to pay taxes?
- children should have to go to school?
- heroin should be outlawed?

etc
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Old 03-17-2009, 10:32 PM
 
Location: Mequon, WI
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People are to blame for peoples problems, unless your liberal.
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Old 03-18-2009, 12:33 AM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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Who is to blame?

If the person is under 16 - the parents are to blame.

If they are over 16 - the person is to blame.

Period
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Old 03-18-2009, 11:54 AM
 
Location: Under a bridge.
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People are to blame for peoples problems, unless your liberal.
Agreed 100% except for the sterotyping of "liberal".. "liberal" is used so much as a slur it has lost meaning.
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