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Old 12-05-2008, 07:17 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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Personally, if I were "in charge" I would;

1) Complete the fence

2) Put Razor Wire all along the top

3) Electrify the fence - with a lot of Amps.
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Old 12-05-2008, 09:46 PM
 
Location: USA
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Personally, if I were "in charge" I would;

1) Complete the fence

2) Put Razor Wire all along the top

3) Electrify the fence - with a lot of Amps.
You have my vote
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Old 12-05-2008, 10:18 PM
 
Location: Eastern Missouri
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Personally, The fence is not close enough to the border in many areas. We should have not only built the fence,ON the Border, but also taken back the rest of Az. in the process. Now you know why the joke is about ocean front property in Az., right? Clue; AZ/mexico border was supposed to be a straight line and Az was supposed to have a part of Baha Bay. However the mexican army plus getting a bit thristy, (and they had plenty of water, btw)the surveyors turned towards Yuma.
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Old 12-06-2008, 05:27 AM
 
Location: Maine
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Personally, if I were "in charge" I would;

1) Complete the fence

2) Put Razor Wire all along the top

3) Electrify the fence - with a lot of Amps.
Some mine fields would be nice also, you know in the high traffic areas.


bill
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Old 12-06-2008, 07:09 AM
 
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Fence or no fence, isn't the real problem, "What are they doing wrong on Mexico side of the line that people have to risk their lived to come to the U.S. side?"

Isn't *that* what effort should be expended on fixing?
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Old 12-06-2008, 11:45 PM
 
Location: Eastern Missouri
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Fence or no fence, isn't the real problem, "What are they doing wrong on Mexico side of the line that people have to risk their lived to come to the U.S. side?"

Isn't *that* what effort should be expended on fixing?


We have given mexico billions of $ over the years to fix their side of the border. It's been 100 percent waste as nothing there ever changes. What we should do with the government of mexico, is quti giving them anything. They are corrupt top to bottom. The only chance of effective changes I see is stop giving them money. Will it work? Don't know, but nothing else short of war has with them so far. And war isn't the answer.
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Old 12-07-2008, 12:01 PM
 
Location: Exit 14C
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Personally, if I were "in charge" I would;
I'd not have any fence OR Immigration laws for that matter. I'd like to see a world where anyone can move anywhere they want without having to jump through any governmental hoops.
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Old 12-07-2008, 12:05 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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I'd not have any fence OR Immigration laws for that matter. I'd like to see a world where anyone can move anywhere they want without having to jump through any governmental hoops.
Well thank goodness you are not in charge.
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Old 12-07-2008, 12:55 PM
 
Location: Exit 14C
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Well thank goodness you are not in charge.
haha
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Old 12-07-2008, 01:48 PM
 
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We have given mexico billions of $ over the years to fix their side of the border. It's been 100 percent waste as nothing there ever changes. What we should do with the government of mexico, is quti giving them anything. They are corrupt top to bottom. The only chance of effective changes I see is stop giving them money. Will it work? Don't know, but nothing else short of war has with them so far. And war isn't the answer.

Well, I'm not neccesarily saying "we" individually should fix it, nearly so much as asking the question, why is it screwed up on just the other side of a political line and shouldn't world leaders be asking that question.

Of course given what is happening in our capital markets, I'm not sure our leaders are in much of a position to figure anything out.

I guess the underlying thought is that mexican people trying to get to a better life aren't neccesarily bad, just in a bad situation with a tough decision to make. Leave their home country for one where they are considered illegal, or stay and suffer, or possibly fight (which may not be possible, after all, who can fight thier own army?)

So... the reasoning continues... what has to happen so Mexico doesn't suck so bad they have to make this decision. Then from there, "Should the US be involved in implementing those changes, why or why not?"
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