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Old 04-05-2009, 07:38 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Doesn't matter to me what people speak, I just want to know what language to speak to order a cheeseburger and tell the docs I'm allergic to Keflex. English is the most efficient as a majority of people know it, but making an official language doesn't invalidate learning others.
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Old 04-05-2009, 08:25 PM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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How would it make anything better if English were the official language? How would it make your day to day life better? How would it make the day to day life of anybody else better?
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Old 04-05-2009, 08:41 PM
 
Location: USA
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When did the big negativity toward English start? Speaking a common language unites a people, that's how we communicate. So what's wrong with English being the language? For decades, people came here and learned English. Now, it's not politically correct?
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Old 04-06-2009, 05:46 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn
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When did the big negativity toward English start? Speaking a common language unites a people, that's how we communicate. So what's wrong with English being the language? For decades, people came here and learned English. Now, it's not politically correct?
You happen to be right. Now let's see how long it takes before you start getting trashed...basically for displaying common sense!
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Old 04-06-2009, 06:02 PM
 
Location: Washington DC
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When did the big negativity toward English start? Speaking a common language unites a people, that's how we communicate. So what's wrong with English being the language? For decades, people came here and learned English. Now, it's not politically correct?
Never spent much time in the Southwest I see.
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Old 04-07-2009, 07:03 AM
 
Location: In a house
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Currently, there is no official language for the United States of America.

Some people feel that the "melting pot" of the world should follow suit of the United Nations and have multiple languages as the official ones. Some people feel that the founding fathers spoke English, and therefore that should be the singular official language. The rest feel that America should not have any official language.

Which of these, or others, do you feel would be most appropriate for the Nation? Why do you feel this way? Provide links as necessary to assist with your opinion.
The Declaration of independence, the Constitution & all other founding documents were in English. Nothing further need be said really, those who dont think that English should be & already effectively is the official language have an axe to grind.
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Old 04-07-2009, 08:43 AM
 
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When did the big negativity toward English start? Speaking a common language unites a people, that's how we communicate. So what's wrong with English being the language? For decades, people came here and learned English.
The negativity started when people from countries with phonetically-sane languages tried to learn all 181 of the spelling rules in English. It really is the suckiest part of English, almost bad enough to totally cancel out the benefit of our simple grammar.

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Old 04-07-2009, 09:03 AM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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When did the big negativity toward English start? Speaking a common language unites a people, that's how we communicate. So what's wrong with English being the language? For decades, people came here and learned English. Now, it's not politically correct?
That has absolutely nothing to do with the OP. English IS the language that people use to communicate in the USA, except when all people in the conversation are more comfortable in another language, which they are perfectly free (this being a free country) to use in their own private discourse. I would invite you and your wife to take a vacation trip to Latvia, and see how hard it is to chat on the bus or in the shops in Latvian, to avoid annoying the hair-trigger sensitivities of the thin-skinned Latvians who are outraged and scream at you that Latvian is the official language here.

If a privately owned TV station chooses to put programs on in Spanish, in order to earn revenue from advertisers who wish to sell products to people who speak Spanish and like to enjoy the leisure of relaxing in front of a Spanish language telenovela which they can understand effortlessly, why do YOU have to get so bent out of shape?

Some countries (group A) have official languages. Some countries (group B) do not have official languages. So what is "wrong" with the languages spoken in Group B countries? How is day-to-day life different in Group A countries, from Group B countries? How are Group A countries decisively superior to Group B countries? How would it change anything in America, if English became the "official" language?

Farsi is the official language of Iran. I had difficulties in the customs house in Khorramshar, bringing in my car. Nobody said "Learn Farsi if you want to execute the intricacies of importation and duties"---they found a man who could speak Englisn and assist me. What's wrong with that?

Sometimes I think I am arguing with third-graders here.

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Old 04-07-2009, 11:28 AM
 
Location: In a house
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How would it make anything better if English were the official language? How would it make your day to day life better? How would it make the day to day life of anybody else better?

Well in our current financial state it would start saving taxpayers money immediately by not having to duplicate everything in spanish. Each time my children bring home ANYTHING from school theres a Spanish & an English copy. My moms Italian, why isn't there an Italian copy? My neighbors from Hungary, why no Hungarian copy? The same goes for many municiple permits & licenses, if theres not a Spanish set of literature theres a spanish translator. All that costs money that could be better spent.

People can speak whatever language they want, but all Govt things should be in English & if you need a translator you can go get one.
My family all came here less than two generations ago. None spoke English & none had a pot to pi$$ in. Nobody helped them so they helped themselves & most owned their own homes before they died, none were a burden on society like make our latin newcomers become.

New groups arent a new phenomenon, the idea that we need to change for them is.
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Old 04-07-2009, 11:33 AM
 
Location: In a house
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Farsi is the official language of Iran. I had difficulties in the customs house in Khorramshar, bringing in my car. Nobody said "Learn Farsi if you want to execute the intricacies of importation and duties"---they found a man who could speak Englisn and assist me. What's wrong with that?

Sometimes I think I am arguing with third-graders here.

Nothing wrong with that. So why the need for Spanish signs & directions? Why the need for tax funded spanish translators?
Whats wrong with them asking for help? Bring a kids permission slip to someone for translation until they learn English?
I doubt Iran had an English drivers test for you to get a license, doubt if your kid went to school there there was free Farsi classes ONLY for Americans. Maybe you see that third grader in the mirror.
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