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Old 02-09-2009, 10:33 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Can you please link me to the story you are talking about with the woman losing her benefits? I would really love to read it.

We live in a capitalist society - let me repeat it for you: A CAPITALIST SOCIETY. That means the private sector controls the business world; not the government. Yes, they set restrictions and regulations, but they do not control the private sector (at least, they didn't use to control the private sector). Prostitution is a business just like any other run of the mill business. A commodity is being traded for a price; it's a simple as that. All legalization would do is a two things: make it taxable and make it legal. It's the private sector that decides how to utilize the legality of it; not the government. It's really as simple as that.

Plenty of results, just google it-

German woman forced to become prostitute - Google Search=


Feminists are up in arms (as they ought to be)

Become a prostitute or lose your benefits in Germany - Feministing (http://www.feministing.com/archives/002374.html - broken link)



German women forced to work in sex industry (http://www.cvtips.com/career_advice_forum/German-women-forced-to-work-in-sex-industry-vt189.html - broken link)
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Old 02-09-2009, 10:34 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Latest News, Breaking News and Current News from the UK and World - Telegraph - Telegraph


'If you don't take a job as a prostitute, we can stop your benefits'
By Clare Chapman
(Filed: 30/01/2005)

A 25-year-old waitress who turned down a job providing "sexual services'' at a brothel in Berlin faces possible cuts to her unemployment benefit under laws introduced this year.



Prostitution was legalised in Germany just over two years ago and brothel owners – who must pay tax and employee health insurance – were granted access to official databases of jobseekers.

The waitress, an unemployed information technology professional, had said that she was willing to work in a bar at night and had worked in a cafe.

She received a letter from the job centre telling her that an employer was interested in her "profile'' and that she should ring them. Only on doing so did the woman, who has not been identified for legal reasons, realise that she was calling a brothel.



Discussed further here-

http://www.fpp.co.uk/online/05/01/Ge...stitution.html
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Old 02-11-2009, 08:29 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Can you please link me to the story you are talking about with the woman losing her benefits? I would really love to read it.

We live in a capitalist society - let me repeat it for you: A CAPITALIST SOCIETY. That means the private sector controls the business world; not the government. Yes, they set restrictions and regulations, but they do not control the private sector (at least, they didn't use to control the private sector). Prostitution is a business just like any other run of the mill business. A commodity is being traded for a price; it's a simple as that. All legalization would do is a two things: make it taxable and make it legal. It's the private sector that decides how to utilize the legality of it; not the government. It's really as simple as that.


Since I posted the links about the story involving a woman forced to accept a job offer from a brothel or lose her unemployment and you have yet to comment, I assume you have nothing to say?
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Old 02-11-2009, 09:12 PM
 
Location: planet octupulous is nearing earths atmosphere
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Any money made from a sinful endeavor will end up costing in the long run. Sin always costs instead of paying. Cigarettes increases medical insurance. Alcoholic beverages makes car insurance higher. So the person doing the sin may not pay, but in the long run; someone will.
i would like to see you sugest some practical idas.... on how you are going to enforce 10's of millions of people to stop smoking cigaretts marijuana and performing prostitution.... get real they all have been around since the beginig of recorded history it would be great if every body was like you but there not!!! the war on all three is been going on forever... make it work for the country and not against the country....... can't beat um join um.
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Old 02-13-2009, 09:05 PM
 
Location: Under a bridge.
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Any money made from a sinful endeavor will end up costing in the long run. Sin always costs instead of paying. Cigarettes increases medical insurance. Alcoholic beverages makes car insurance higher. So the person doing the sin may not pay, but in the long run; someone will.
?We don't pay already>? and more?
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Old 02-17-2009, 10:37 PM
 
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Good topic OP.

Lets get this clear, it has nothing to do with morals since prostitution in some states such as Nevada is legal. It is no different than going on a expensive date then having sex. It is a consenting exchange. Totally different from rape.

There is no health issues because once again look at the Bunny Ranch. If there was a health concern...the Bunny Ranch would of been shut down long time ago.

Last edited by kenk; 02-17-2009 at 11:42 PM..
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Old 02-19-2009, 04:10 PM
 
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Any money made from a sinful endeavor will end up costing in the long run. Sin always costs instead of paying. Cigarettes increases medical insurance. Alcoholic beverages makes car insurance higher. So the person doing the sin may not pay, but in the long run; someone will.
There are proven health benefits for moderate consumption of red wine. I have a glass with my dinner at home every night. How does that make my auto insurance go up?

Alcohol consumption in itself is not a problem nor is it a sin--I'll remind the bible thumpers that Jesus seemed to enjoy drinking it.
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Old 02-20-2009, 07:56 AM
 
Location: Columbus, OH
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Latest News, Breaking News and Current News from the UK and World - Telegraph - Telegraph


'If you don't take a job as a prostitute, we can stop your benefits'
By Clare Chapman
(Filed: 30/01/2005)

A 25-year-old waitress who turned down a job providing "sexual services'' at a brothel in Berlin faces possible cuts to her unemployment benefit under laws introduced this year.



Prostitution was legalised in Germany just over two years ago and brothel owners – who must pay tax and employee health insurance – were granted access to official databases of jobseekers.

The waitress, an unemployed information technology professional, had said that she was willing to work in a bar at night and had worked in a cafe.

She received a letter from the job centre telling her that an employer was interested in her "profile'' and that she should ring them. Only on doing so did the woman, who has not been identified for legal reasons, realise that she was calling a brothel.



Discussed further here-

Real History and the coming threat of European laws to our women
but u neglect to mention this only occurs after the person has been out of work for over a year. if u r out of work for over a year and have been getting unemployment benefits for that long than I have no problem with gov forcing people to take a job or lose the benefits. there is no reason a person cannot find a job of some kind in a year. and she isnt being forced into it, shes being forced to get off her ass and find a job or lose benefits. if this was after a month it would be redic but a year is more than ample amount of time to find work. if anything I see this as getting some of the mooches off the gov tit.

prostitution is the world's oldest profession, as long as their has been money their has been prostitution. so lets get over our moral qualms and face it, u can make it illegal, but its not going to stop it. y not let those willing to do it be able to in a safe and open work environment where they will be able to get health care and pay taxes??
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Old 02-20-2009, 12:25 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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but u neglect to mention this only occurs after the person has been out of work for over a year. if u r out of work for over a year and have been getting unemployment benefits for that long than I have no problem with gov forcing people to take a job or lose the benefits. there is no reason a person cannot find a job of some kind in a year. and she isnt being forced into it, shes being forced to get off her ass and find a job or lose benefits. if this was after a month it would be redic but a year is more than ample amount of time to find work. if anything I see this as getting some of the mooches off the gov tit.

prostitution is the world's oldest profession, as long as their has been money their has been prostitution. so lets get over our moral qualms and face it, u can make it illegal, but its not going to stop it. y not let those willing to do it be able to in a safe and open work environment where they will be able to get health care and pay taxes??
You just contradicted yourself... You talk about the government forcing women into prostitution then you go on to say "let those willing to do it be able to..."

Which is it? Are women forced into prostitution or are they simply allowed to have it as an option that they freely pick, in your ideal system?

Also your lack of capitalization, combined with your frequent use of "y," "u," and such, makes it very difficult to take you seriously. When taken with the fact that you so quickly contradicted yourself with the remarks about the government forcing people and then how it should be an option for women (which is it?), it seems that you're just some child who stumbled across this site.
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Old 02-20-2009, 02:12 PM
 
Location: Columbus, OH
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You just contradicted yourself... You talk about the government forcing women into prostitution then you go on to say "let those willing to do it be able to..."

Which is it? Are women forced into prostitution or are they simply allowed to have it as an option that they freely pick, in your ideal system?

Also your lack of capitalization, combined with your frequent use of "y," "u," and such, makes it very difficult to take you seriously. When taken with the fact that you so quickly contradicted yourself with the remarks about the government forcing people and then how it should be an option for women (which is it?), it seems that you're just some child who stumbled across this site.
ouch, a shot at my improper grammar on a forum

If I was unclear than I apologize. What I meant to say was that I have no problem with a government kicking someone out of unemployment benefits. As long as its after a year of unemployment and they refuse to take a job. The unemployed person does not have to do anything they do not want to do, they just would have to find another job or stop mooching off the government.
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