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Old 02-27-2009, 11:39 PM
 
Location: The Shires
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It should be legal anyway, but more should be done to help get prostitutes back to becoming working members of society, who don't feel the need to sell their bodies for $$$. Call me a bleeding heart, but only desperation and despair forces people to do these things....give people hope and they'll do something else with their lives (for the most part).
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Old 02-27-2009, 11:56 PM
 
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"more should be done to help get prostitutes back to becoming working members of society, who don't feel the need to sell their bodies for $$$. Call me a bleeding heart, but only desperation and despair forces people to do these things....give people hope and they'll do something else with their lives (for the most part).
Amen
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Old 02-28-2009, 10:15 AM
 
Location: The Netherlands
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Originally Posted by BCreass
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Call me a bleeding heart, but only desperation and despair forces people to do these things....give people hope and they'll do something else with their lives (for the most part).
What is the difference between prostitution and being a Playmate?
Don't they both sell their bodies for $$$ to the public?
I wouldn't necessarily call (expensive) callgirls and Playmates people without hope, simply because they aren't always driven by poverty.
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Old 02-28-2009, 10:24 AM
 
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Originally Posted by BCreass What is the difference between prostitution and being a Playmate?
Don't they both sell their bodies for $$$ to the public?
I wouldn't necessarily call (expensive) callgirls and Playmates people without hope, simply because they aren't always driven by poverty.
he said for the most part, most people would not want to sell themselves to survive. it's just unnatural to demean, devalue and put yourself at risk like that. your body is so personal and especially the sexual act. eww
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Old 02-28-2009, 10:30 AM
 
Location: Portlandia "burbs"
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Legalization would have to become "institutionalized". In other words, ***** houses. All of the women in a dwelling, with someone to run the front service end, a 'madam'.

I'm serious. This is the ONLY way that prostitution could be equitably taxed, health and safety inspections maintained, and pimps minimized. It probably won't do a thing where drugs are concerned. And I can see where a lot of corruption could occur in this alternative, too.

You can't "tax" for services rendered in an alley or in someone's car, where the only watchful eye could be her pimp's.

As for Europe, yes, prostitution is definitely regarded differently there. But the profession is restricted to 'red-light areas' where they are congregated. It's too late for the US to do this now. Re-zoning into prostitution-only areas would create more ramifications than you'd realize.
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Old 02-28-2009, 11:12 AM
 
Location: The Netherlands
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Originally Posted by leaana
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it's just unnatural to demean, devalue and put yourself at risk like that.
Are you demeaning someone if you pay him/her for services rendered?
I mean there is a clear difference between love and sex, yet marrying someone for money is socially acceptable yet paying for or sex and earning money with sex isn't?

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your body is so personal and especially the sexual act. eww
True, but just having sex without having any (lasting) emotional involvement is not the same as making love with the person you wanna spend eternity with.
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Old 02-28-2009, 06:00 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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I think prostitution should be legalized and regulated, as it is in Amsterdam and probably other degenerate parts of doomed Europe.

I agree with BCreass, excellent points. Most girls (and boys) don't decide they want to be prostitutes when they grow up, so they can also become addicts or alcoholics, beating and robbery victims, hosts to various exotic diseases, and held in virtual slavery by scumbags known as pimps.

I also think street drugs should be legalized and regulated and taxed. In one fell swoop many of the worst drug gangs could be put on the ropes or directly out of business. California could probably balance their budget--until they wasted all the new revenue on "taking care of" people--if such occurred.

Put the criminals out of business, ensure uniform quality and dosage, collect megazillions in tax and retail revenue, and hand out literature with each package to educate the user/addict regarding his habit and its consequences, and treatment and recovery options.

The War on Drugs has worked as well as the War on Poverty. ZIP.

What those wars have done is create huge bureaucracies and dependencies, and have wasted hundreds and hundreds of billions of dollars.

The road to hell is paved with good intentions, and those two "wars" are perfect examples.
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Old 03-01-2009, 12:27 AM
 
Location: The Netherlands
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The War on Drugs has worked as well as the War on Poverty. ZIP.
The only way to win the war on drugs and poverty is when the individual can win his personal war on greed.
In short: if every individual is able to overcome his greed we'll have won the war on drugs and poverty.
And the only way to do this is to know the fundamental difference between want and need.
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Old 03-01-2009, 03:25 AM
 
Location: Connecticut
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Default From an Economic Standpoint why shouldn't prostitution be legalized

Realizing that you want to speak to this subject from an economic standpoint I can honestly say that there is no way that this type of "business" will stimulate anything close to the economy..a little more SOUTH of that if you get my drift. The only people who will realize any economic gain from this business are the people who run it, i.e, the Pimps, or Madams or the bordellos in Las Vegas. Why would you think that the money earned here goes for anything more than fancy cars, drugs, fancy clothes for the "girls", gambling and all that fun kind of stuff? Whether the legalized bordellos in Nevada are careful to screen their girls for disease.....you can't tell me that these girls don't get an occasional STD and then spread it. You cannot dismiss talking about this aspect of the profession because legal or not the taxpayer ends up paying for the disease treatments, the illigetimate kids that may happen, the prison sentences for those who engage in this profession illegally, the court appointed attorneys who take care of the "ladies" who cannot afford to get out of trouble and more.

Think of something else that will stimulate just the economy only while at the same time teach our young women self respect.
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Old 03-01-2009, 11:38 AM
 
Location: In my skin
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Default Porn is legal, yet prostitution isn't.....

and the differences that make one legal and not the other, to me, are just ridiculous.

Pornography is considered free speech. Two people are being paid to have sex so it can be viewed by the "patron" who is receiving pleasure from watching, and not participating. He's not paying them to have sex with him, okay.

But actors, who are 100% human, are being paid to have sex. At least one of them is receiving gratification and someone is profitting from it. Since there isn't a direct exchange between the two of money for sexual favors and it is being filmed for someone else's enjoyment, it's legal. Yet, both operate under the basis of two (or more) consenting adults participating, both have a negative impact on society, marriages, morals and both are "degrading to women".

Porn is a multi-billion dollar business. Aside from the tax dollars we are missing out on by making prostitution illegal, how much money is being wasted on stings state and nationwide? As it applies to human trafficking and violent sex crimes, absolutely, spend the money. The rest is wasteful, IMO. People have sex every day for a benefit of some kind, and many of these benefits have a monetary value.

Heck, two porn moguls wanted a handout - though I doubt they'll get it for the same reasons prostitution is illegal (not that I side with these two). The government reaps the benefits with word play, but don't push it, buddy:

Porn industry seeks $5 billion federal bailout | ajc.com (http://www.ajc.com/business/content/business/stories/2009/01/08/flynt_porn_bailout.html - broken link)
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