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Unread 12-11-2008, 01:34 PM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC
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Default Where did we go wrong?

IMO, our society seems to disintigrate more each year. I listen to the news and am appalled and disheartened by many things I hear. One thing seems to be a constant though.....Blame.

If someone has trouble paying the mortgage or car payment, where did they get the idea that is would be okay the shirk the legal agreement they entered into? Did I miss the memo? How dare the bank want to collect payment on a loan. Doesn't the word "Loan" imply that the funds will be paid back.

People commit horrible crimes against others and we have to listen to the media spoon feed us stories about their underprivilaged childhoods, as if that absolves them of their culpability. That doesn't change things for the kids who were molested, the women who were raped or the families of someone who was murdered. They will spend the rest of their lives trying to pick up the pieces.

How often do you hear about a child abuser who was abused themselves? Why do we care if they were abused themselves?

When did "Personal Responsibility" become an option?

How did we get to this point? Any ideas?
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Unread 12-11-2008, 01:49 PM
 
Location: 3814′45″N 12237′53″W
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I like to blame the litigious sharks (lawyers)..but that'd be too easy, eh?!
Whoopsie! See there ya go, I've done it...gone and put the BLAME on!
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Unread 12-11-2008, 02:00 PM
 
Location: Chicago, Illinois
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blame the tv, media, and people who don't read enough.
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Unread 12-11-2008, 02:18 PM
 
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As any society becomes more liberal, it also becomes more immoral. When this happens, accountability & personal responsibility leaves as well. This is the common and consistent theme throughout history. All great countries fall from within first as they become more tolerant of immorality.
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Unread 12-11-2008, 02:20 PM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC
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I like to blame the litigious sharks (lawyers)..but that'd be too easy, eh?!
Whoopsie! See there ya go, I've done it...gone and put the BLAME on!
I'm sure the litigious sharks have their pawprints in there somewhere. It's okay to blame them for some of it. They have to come up with some kind of argument to help release some poor, beleagered social outcast back into society.
Maybe if we form a prayer chain and have a Hug a Thug day every Thursday, we can give all those SOB's some sense of acceptance and love.
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Unread 12-11-2008, 02:39 PM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC
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As any society becomes more liberal, it also becomes more immoral. When this happens, accountability & personal responsibility leaves as well. This is the common and consistent theme throughout history. All great countries fall from within first as they become more tolerant of immorality.
Any thoughts on HOW or WHY this happens?

Do you think that this level of moral decay has always been there or is it just that we have more access to news reports from around the world?
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Unread 12-11-2008, 03:13 PM
 
Location: Charlotte area, NC
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I think a big part of where "we've" gone wrong is to continue to support the crooked 2 party political system that we have....until people understand that there isn't a dime's worth of difference between Republicans and Democrats, and finally let the Constitution guide them in electing candidates, we're doomed.
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Unread 12-11-2008, 03:55 PM
 
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IMO, our society seems to disintigrate more each year. I listen to the news and am appalled and disheartened by many things I hear. One thing seems to be a constant though.....Blame.

If someone has trouble paying the mortgage or car payment, where did they get the idea that is would be okay the shirk the legal agreement they entered into? Did I miss the memo? How dare the bank want to collect payment on a loan. Doesn't the word "Loan" imply that the funds will be paid back.

People commit horrible crimes against others and we have to listen to the media spoon feed us stories about their underprivilaged childhoods, as if that absolves them of their culpability. That doesn't change things for the kids who were molested, the women who were raped or the families of someone who was murdered. They will spend the rest of their lives trying to pick up the pieces.

How often do you hear about a child abuser who was abused themselves? Why do we care if they were abused themselves?

When did "Personal Responsibility" become an option?

How did we get to this point? Any ideas?
America is feeling the fallout of the worst thing it could have ever done : To volitionally displace God and his absolute moral laws and values which were intially instituted by this Countrys Founders ... in exchange for MAN making his own 'rules' to live by --- and of course those rules are all centered around maximum personal entitlement and the avenues in which that is achieved are thru the uncontrolled desire for sexual immorality , hedonism, and narcissism. When this comes to fruition, all kinds of unethical behavior leading to anarchy is the result and each suceeding generation takes it to the next level of moral degradation. If you have young children, you should be concerned. Very concerned.
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Unread 12-11-2008, 04:11 PM
 
Location: Enchanted Forrest
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I believe people who try to impose their views on others, fear others who do not think or act like them. That makes them very narrow minded. Some of the people I know, who are brilliant mind you, just see things differently in people who don't share the same views as they do. I think our decline is from Greed and corruption. People are accused of being being lazy when they get up and go to work. Some work two, perhaps three jobs and still can't afford the very basics in life. Our cost of living is so high now but our pay has not changed in years. I know people will say, you need higher education or a skill, but there are people who have to take those kinds of jobs. There is a demand for it. We really need to pay them a fair salary. Not everyone lives together with about three families but that is changing just so they can survive. You can not live on min. wage in 2008. Now we have this back lash and who pays for it? Now it is going to be the middle class. I think people should treat people like citizens of this great nation instead of trying to make slaves out of the people for their own greed. So who is to blame? I suppose it is us. All who profit from the weak. People who do not care about quality anymore but quanity. Thats why we buy the cheap junk from walmarts and it falls apart quickly. People can't find the time to read for knowledge or entertainment when you have the masses so tired and worn out. We have created this. If you treat a human being like a wild animal, that is what you are going to have. Just my thoughts...
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Unread 12-11-2008, 04:26 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Read any book about current events at any time and people are asking where they went wrong because society is becoming morally bankrupt, money is tight, and "pop" culture looks like it will kill society in some fashion.

Everyone wants to blame other things for their own misfortunes, it's always the opposites political affiliation, philosophy, moral outlook...whatever. There's a good reason scapegoats have been in use for thousands of years (Scapegoat - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia), it's always something else that brings misfortune to a person...never bringing it on themselves.

It's human nature, not something new.
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