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Old 12-31-2008, 04:18 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Many news stories and people like to point out that Americans live high on the hog, and don't give enough to places like Africa...people are still starving and dying by the hundreds. No one in the articles ever seems to point out what happens to the aid people actually sends over, usually ending up lining the pockets of the government officials and is never used for the people.

National Economy: A report by the African Union, presented before a meeting in Addis Ababa in September 2002, estimates that corruption costs African economies in excess of 148bn dollars a year. This figure, which includes both direct and indirect costs of corruption, i.e. resources diverted by corrupt acts and resources withheld or deterred due to the existence of corruption, is thought to represent 25% of Africa's GDP and to increase the cost of goods by as much as 20%. [BBC News, 18/09/02; The Economist, 19/09/02]
Aid effectiveness: In 1996, it was estimated that up to 30bn dollars in aid for Africa ended up in foreign bank accounts, an amount equal to twice the annual GDP of Ghana, Kenya and Uganda [from Michelle Celarier, 1996: The Cost of Corruption. In: Euromoney, September 1996: 49.]
See also this article (http://www.adb.org/Documents/Policies/Anticorruption/anticorrupt400.asp?p=policies - broken link) on the Asian Development Bank web site.

Africa: Scale of corruption and impact on poor
http://www.house.gov/jec/publications/109/12-09-05galliotcorruption.pdf (broken link)
BBC NEWS | World | Africa | Corruption 'costs Africa billions'

Even sending food to Africa hurts as well, including depressing prices local farmers receive for their goods and discouraging farmers (or if it's free, disincentive to produce). 20 Years ago Africa was a net exporter of food, now it receives 1/3rd of the worlds food aid.

Charity finds that U.S. food aid for Africa hurts instead of helps - International Herald Tribune
Africa can triple food output : Africa: News: News24 (http://www.news24.com/News24/Africa/News/0,,2-11-1447_2341586,00.html - broken link)

Even AIDs drugs meant to help the poor and suffering are seized and resold to richer countries for a good profit.

Europeans Investigate Resale of AIDS Drugs - The Body
Europeans Investigate Resale of AIDS Drugs - New York Times
Africa-bound AIDS drugs resold illegally -- Spooner 167 (11): 1281 -- Canadian Medical Association Journal

I don't think it's blaming the victim to ask why should wealthy countries give aid along channels where it never even reaches the people it is intended for? What can people do to make sure the aid reaches the people it is intended for, and helps with a hand up instead of keeping people dependent on it?

Not that I wish people to starve, but the first world countries get a considerable amount of flak for not giving more while the officials in corrupt countries seem to avoid any responsibility for shoveling that money into their pockets instead of helping people.

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Old 01-01-2009, 05:45 AM
 
Location: Minnysoda
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Been there seen that.....Mogudishu 1987. Tons of UNICEF bags of rice on the dock fat people in town. starveing people in the country.........I won't give them a dime.....
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Old 01-01-2009, 10:58 AM
 
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I thnik many of these type places are in for a shock with the current isolation sentiments in this country.
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Old 01-03-2009, 12:26 AM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC
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The first thing that needs to be fixed in Africa before anything else is their corrupt governments. They are the main source for the problems in Africa.
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Old 01-03-2009, 01:00 AM
 
Location: Lafayette, IN
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The first thing that needs to be fixed in Africa before anything else is their corrupt governments. They are the main source for the problems in Africa.
I would be hard pressed to identify any single problem as the most pressing for Sub-Saharan Africa (when discussing African development its important to differentiate Northern Africa from Sub-Saharan Africa). While corruption is certainly up there on the list and may, in fact, be the most important in certain countries (such as Nigeria), other problems are more pressing elsewhere. Some countries barely have any government at all so corruption matters far less than actually developing a viable governing apparatus (as is the case in Somalia, the Central African Republic, the Republic of the Congo and the Democratic Republic of the Congo). In some countries, like Lesotho, the AIDS rate has broken 30%. In others ethnic violence is causing widespread death and mutilation. The continent's problems are of a scale and breadth almost unimaginable. It's hard to generalize, really, better to look at each country individually. One thing is for certain, however, all the countries in Sub-Saharan Africa would benefit tremendously from more engagement and integration with the outside world; they need the help of the more developed countries.
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Old 01-03-2009, 01:35 AM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC
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I would be hard pressed to identify any single problem as the most pressing for Sub-Saharan Africa (when discussing African development its important to differentiate Northern Africa from Sub-Saharan Africa). While corruption is certainly up there on the list and may, in fact, be the most important in certain countries (such as Nigeria), other problems are more pressing elsewhere. Some countries barely have any government at all so corruption matters far less than actually developing a viable governing apparatus (as is the case in Somalia, the Central African Republic, the Republic of the Congo and the Democratic Republic of the Congo). In some countries, like Lesotho, the AIDS rate has broken 30%. In others ethnic violence is causing widespread death and mutilation. The continent's problems are of a scale and breadth almost unimaginable. It's hard to generalize, really, better to look at each country individually. One thing is for certain, however, all the countries in Sub-Saharan Africa would benefit tremendously from more engagement and integration with the outside world; they need the help of the more developed countries.
Well I guess nothing can be done about ethnic violence, as far as getting help from developed countries what devloped country wants to help them out? I cant think of any.
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Old 01-03-2009, 01:45 AM
 
Location: Lafayette, IN
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Well I guess nothing can be done about ethnic violence, as far as getting help from developed countries what devloped country wants to help them out? I cant think of any.
Almost all the developed countries are involved in African development to some degree, particularly those European states which had colonial possessions on the continent. France, especially, has considerable involvement (including troops) in parts of francophone Africa. The major development institutions (the International Monetary Fund, the World Bank, the United Nations Development Program, the World Health Organization, etc) which have considerable backing from the developed countries also have significant involvement. Additionally, a wide array of NGOs are involved in various aspects of African development as well. Unfortunately, its nowhere near enough. Efforts have been inconsistently implemented and followed through. Oversight is lacking, as is international pressure. More funds need to be invested in a more responsible and comprehensive manner. Oversight needs to be more rigorously enforced. Efforts are moving in the right direction, but they are doing so at too slow a pace.

The future is particularly uncertain. Obama's winning the presidency bodes well for the continent; his father was Kenyan so he has some ties to the continent. Obama has also expressed a desire to increase US foreign development assistance to many countries there. At the same time, some countries on the continent have shown substantial progress in both economic and human capital development in recent years; Botswana, Mozambique, South Africa and Rwanda are notable in this regard.

Yet, at the same time the current global economic crisis is likely to impact Africa particularly hard, both by weakening already weak markets and by resulting in fewer financial resources. Climate change is also likely to impact Africa harder than most places; the Sahara will expand and environmental refugees will become increasingly common place. AIDS, too, is still rampant. Even worse, genocide continues in the Sudan, Nigeria (the continents most populous country) is becoming increasingly unstable and the Democratic Republic of the Congo is currently home to the deadliest conflict since WWII, a conflict that has largely been ignored by the outside world.

Only time will tell.
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Old 03-30-2010, 07:12 PM
 
Location: Homeless
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I enjoy posting in forums about world issues as much as anyone else.
IMHO, the biggest problem is that some people are going to be corrupt and greedy at every level.
If that could be eliminated then all nations would work in a more beneficial way towards all of their citizens.

To rid ourselves of corruption and greed would take a worldwide general value change of humanity down to the last individual. Or at least a change of 95% or more who are willing to take steps to put this harmony into place.

Until that happens, or humanity ends, the problems will continue.
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