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Old 02-21-2009, 08:54 AM
 
Location: Washington DC
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I have to assume this has been done before but I want to hear peoples stance on one of the most controversial debates of our time. Please post your stance first before u start arguing against other peoples stance.

and as always, there is no reason we cannot be civil about this so dont go postal on anyone for stating their beliefs .
I plan not to have one, but I don't believe it's a particularly important issue except to a fringe group of RW religious zealots.
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Old 02-21-2009, 08:58 AM
 
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I am not a math major by any stretch and I am not trying to argue with you. I want to learn. I am confused at how you arrive at 1240 sf?

For simplicty sake, if one assumes a 400 sf house is 20'x20' and 6' yard all around was added, each side would be 26' long. Wouldn't that be 675 sf, rather than feet squared (1350)?

The 1350 is the area of a 3 bedroom house - which is what prompted me to ask.

Thanks!
No, it wouldn't be 26' per side...it would be 32' per side because you have an extra 6 feet on EACH SIDE (at 26' you'd only have an extra 3' per side).

And, 32' x 32' is 1024 square feet -- so you're both wrong.
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Old 02-21-2009, 09:45 AM
 
Location: Kingman AZ
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Maybe I"m wierd [alright I AM wierd] but I dont believe that MEN have the right to an opinion. The only one that can have an opinion is the pregnant woman.
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Old 02-21-2009, 09:55 AM
 
Location: Nowhere
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Maybe I"m wierd [alright I AM wierd] but I dont believe that MEN have the right to an opinion. The only one that can have an opinion is the pregnant woman.
weirdo, lol
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Old 02-21-2009, 11:25 AM
 
Location: Not where you ever lived
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And, 32' x 32' is 1024 square feet -- so you're both wrong.


Yup. 20+12 = 32.
Ignorance isn't always bliss. Sometimes it hurts.

Thanks for the help.
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Old 02-21-2009, 12:02 PM
 
Location: Beaverland, OR
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ur an idiot, and to prove it I will do the math

1240 square feet x 6 billion = 7,440,000,000,000 square feet (7.44 quadrillion!!)

7.44 quad / 5280 = 1,409,090,909 sq miles (rounded)

size of texas in square miles (including water area) = 266,874

1,409,090,909 / 266,874 = 5280 (rounded, kinda wierd this # came up again)

so apparantly u think texas is actually 5,280 times bigger than it really is

total surface of the earth (including oceans) = 196,940,400 sq miles

1,409,090,909 / 196,940,400 = 7.15

so if we could live on top of the ocean and take up every inch of possible space including mountains and rain forests the earth would only have to be a little over 7 times larger than it is now to accomadate everyone with this reasonable amount of space you are talking about. dont tell me to do the math if u obviously haven't. its OBVIOUS to me u have no idea how large a number 6 billion is. i think its safe to say we are more than overcrowded right now

PS math just owned u
Sigh. For the mathematically challenged, I will do it for you:

Texas = 266874 square miles
One square mile = 5280 x5280 = 27878400 sq feet

Texas = 266874 square miles x 27878400 sq ft/sq mile = 7440020122000, or 7.44 trillion sq. feet.

7.44 trillion / 6 billion people = 1240 sq feet each

A 40 x 10 foot "house" surrounded on all sides by 6 feet of "lawn" has dimensions of 52 x 22. 52 x 22 = 1144 sq. feet. This is slightly under 1240 sq feet, as I rounded the lawn space down to 6 feet from about 6.5 feet.

There are variations on the house dimensions you could use, but they all come out to in the same neighborhood.

Ulnevrwalkalone, what were you saying about someone being an idiot?
Please do a little thinking before making rather embarrassing posts like this in the future.

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Old 02-21-2009, 12:07 PM
 
Location: Beaverland, OR
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No, it wouldn't be 26' per side...it would be 32' per side because you have an extra 6 feet on EACH SIDE (at 26' you'd only have an extra 3' per side).

And, 32' x 32' is 1024 square feet -- so you're both wrong.
I was envisioning a 40' x 10' trailer house in the original post, which would have final dimensions of 52' x 22' including the lawn, giving an area of 1144 sq. feet. Throw in a extra ~100 sq. feet to account for increasing population above 6 billion and that's how I arrived at the 1240 number.
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Old 02-21-2009, 12:23 PM
 
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I have to assume this has been done before but I want to hear peoples stance on one of the most controversial debates of our time. Please post your stance first before u start arguing against other peoples stance.

and as always, there is no reason we cannot be civil about this so dont go postal on anyone for stating their beliefs .
95% of ALL abortions performed are due to Sexual Hedonism gone (further) wrong . The American Sexual Hedonist needs the availability of Abortion Mills and vice versa. Its time our Government got some spine to legislate Morality with very stiff penalties . We need some Singaporian justice in this country badly because Americans suffer from Immorality and Apathy which is bringing the once great Country to ruin on many various levels.
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Old 02-21-2009, 12:59 PM
 
Location: Beaverland, OR
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Yeah, but what about the farmland required to support all 6 billion people? How much additional space would that require?
How many acres of forest land would be required to supply all the paper and wood products necessary?
How much land would be required for mining ores necessary for 6 billion people?
How much land would be required for the factories to produce the finished goods for 6 billion people?

Hopefully you get my point.
OK, let's suppose that each and every person gets a chunk of forest/farm/mine land equivalent to TEN times the amount of the area allocated for their house & yard. That means each and every adult, teen and baby around the world gets 1240 x10, or 12400 sq. feet of additional "sustenance production" space. That means an area 10 times the size of Texas. Even all this land would only be 70% the size of the U.S.

Everywhere else -- empty. Canada: empty, Europe: empty, Africa: empty, Asia: empty, Australia: empty, South and Central America: empty.

Hopefully you get my point.
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Old 02-21-2009, 02:45 PM
 
Location: Oak Park, IL
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OK, let's suppose that each and every person gets a chunk of forest/farm/mine land equivalent to TEN times the amount of the area allocated for their house & yard. That means each and every adult, teen and baby around the world gets 1240 x10, or 12400 sq. feet of additional "sustenance production" space. That means an area 10 times the size of Texas. Even all this land would only be 70% the size of the U.S.

Everywhere else -- empty. Canada: empty, Europe: empty, Africa: empty, Asia: empty, Australia: empty, South and Central America: empty.

Hopefully you get my point.
Ten-fold is an arbritary number. Would this amount of land be sufficient to support us at our current standard of living? How much acreage is required to sustain the average American? I don't know the answer, but I suspect its quite a bit higher than 12400 sq foot, especially considering that much of that acreage would be devoted to feeding cattle, which have very large acreage requirements.
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