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Old 03-04-2009, 08:28 PM
 
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globalization is good for big companys like caterpiller wallmart chrysler gmc etc... but do you think it's good for all the small businesses that make up like 80% of this countries work force... personally i think it is a bad think we are becoming to dependant on other countries for our energy and products that are manufactured by legal slave labor.... what do you think??
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Old 03-05-2009, 09:03 AM
 
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I would disagree. Business is good pretty much where ever one can find it. If I started a business I'd have a web site- and that almost immediately makes me a global business.
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Old 03-05-2009, 09:25 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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globalization is good for big companys like caterpiller wallmart chrysler gmc etc... but do you think it's good for all the small businesses that make up like 80% of this countries work force... personally i think it is a bad think we are becoming to dependant on other countries for our energy and products that are manufactured by legal slave labor.... what do you think??
(In just concerning labor in developing countries)

There's a big difference between child labor and slave labor, I don't really like either personally but I can see child labor not being as heinous. If the benefits of school are very low compared to the benefits of working, then imposing a similar expectation that children should go to school till their 18 can actually hurt the kids and their families economically.

So we can do business there, the people and their family can make money...and then the next generation will have improved conditions from being better off economically...then put their kids into school and build a continuously educated population from the ground up. Plus the investment from the companies of infrastructure and demands for the associate supporting roles. Or we can take our business elsewhere, and leave them in destitute poverty and they get no benefit from the US investment.
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Old 03-06-2009, 05:17 AM
 
Location: Cold Frozen North
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How about bringing back the jobs to our country. If globalism is so good, why aren't more countries striving to run an enormous balance of trade deficit like we do. If free trade was good for the USA, we would be running a trade surplus.
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Old 03-06-2009, 06:15 AM
 
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Globalization is the beginning of the end of national identity & independence, period.
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Old 03-06-2009, 06:22 AM
 
Location: Hong Kong
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How about bringing back the jobs to our country. If globalism is so good, why aren't more countries striving to run an enormous balance of trade deficit like we do. If free trade was good for the USA, we would be running a trade surplus.
If you gave the job of manufacturing goods in the US instead of importing them from cheaper sources (and thus providing American workers jobs, as you suggest), you'd be looking at a HUGE hike in the price of these goods for the simple reason of the cost of labour. Labour in the US is many times more expensive than labour in, say, China. Accordingly, this extra cost is passed on to consumers. How could these companies remain competitive and in business?

People like to say they don't want free trade, but they also enjoy their cheap consumer goods!
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Old 03-06-2009, 06:39 AM
 
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If you gave the job of manufacturing goods in the US instead of importing them from cheaper sources (and thus providing American workers jobs, as you suggest), you'd be looking at a HUGE hike in the price of these goods for the simple reason of the cost of labour. Labour in the US is many times more expensive than labour in, say, China. Accordingly, this extra cost is passed on to consumers. How could these companies remain competitive and in business?
By taxing imports until they cost the same as if made here. Those guys who's work costs too much for us to pay for are jobless to a large degree. What does that cost us the taxpayers?

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People like to say they don't want free trade, but they also enjoy their cheap consumer goods!
People like alot of things they cant have. Free trade is bad for our country, that much should be obvious.
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Old 03-06-2009, 07:29 AM
 
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If you gave the job of manufacturing goods in the US instead of importing them from cheaper sources (and thus providing American workers jobs, as you suggest), you'd be looking at a HUGE hike in the price of these goods for the simple reason of the cost of labour. Labour in the US is many times more expensive than labour in, say, China. Accordingly, this extra cost is passed on to consumers. How could these companies remain competitive and in business?

People like to say they don't want free trade, but they also enjoy their cheap consumer goods!
damn all that garbage coming out of china is not cheap in price!!! but cheap quality... these big corporations don't pass the savings on to the consumer.. they deposit it straight into the ceo's bank accounts..greedy bastards!!!!! when all the jobs are gone who is going to buy all those cheap china goods.. when you buy goods from china you are supporting leagle slavery.. it's time to bring back industry to the usa and stop outsourcing american jobs..i think it's time for the small business association to pool up and start a fund to hire the best lobbyist that money can buy to fight for small businesses rights..most of obamas donations came from the average americans and he became president.... it's time for a movement pool up or die!!!!!
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Old 03-06-2009, 08:13 AM
 
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Globalization is the beginning of the end of national identity & independence, period.
Not necessarily.

If we made good quality products at a reasonable price, then "Made in USA" will have true meaning all around the globe. Otherwise, you are probably right. So it's up to us.
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Old 03-06-2009, 09:31 AM
 
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Default Capitalism and Globalization

There is an obvious disadvantage for U.S. Manufacturing. Whereas, the U.S Agriculture sector receives huge benefits. We may be outsourcing our manufacturing jobs, but we outsource all foreign farmers out of their farms. Look at any trade agreement, and we often give economic concessions for footholds in foreign food and meat distribution... (or commitments in progressing our foreign agenda). Many countries are now dependent on the US for feeding their populations, which we obviously use to our advantage.

Overall, globalization is bad for the US working class and poor. Good for our foreign policy and capitalism. Without doubt, capitalism flourishes under global markets and competition. However, that does not necessarily mean everyone benefits (especially the US working class). Capitalism is not an utopia.

If globalization is bad for many of us, why do we continue?
Last time I checked, we lived in a capitalist society (Considering our current predicament, I may have to check again shortly ).
As for a global free market. We kind of opened Pandora's box. It's kind of hard to put the lid back on.


Maybe a little Shakespeare?
Because we have stepped so far into blood that if we should try and wade back, going back would be as difficult as going on with it

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