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Old 03-08-2009, 10:45 PM
 
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I saw a program tonight on real life sex offenders and how they are registered as such (Level 1-3).

One of them made an interesting point. He said he is labeled permanently by his crime while someone who outright kills a child gets out and doesn't have to register at all. According to him, "I put my tongue on a kid, but some guy kills a kid and no one will know it." (Yah, not pretty I know).

What do you think? Should there be a registry for heinous or high-risk crimes, sexual or otherwise? Why would the police alert us to a sex offender moving into our neighborhood and not a convicted drug dealer, batterer or a murderer? Correct me if something like this exists already, but I know nothing of it.
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Old 03-08-2009, 10:51 PM
 
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I say leave them in there so we don't have to worry

That would be a waste of tax payer money? Well , put them on island surrounded by sharks and have them fend for themselves.
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Old 03-09-2009, 01:15 AM
 
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Originally Posted by PassTheChocolate
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Why would the police alert us to a sex offender moving into our neighborhood and not a convicted drug dealer, batterer or a murderer?
Because sex offenders have the highest risk of repeating their (sex) crime.
Sex offenders (like paedophiles & serial rapists) cannot change what they are, they can only suppress it.
But the more they suppress their urge, the more it builds up.
Criminals, like burglars, only commit a crime because they need money and generally not because it is a condition they were born with.
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Old 03-09-2009, 04:01 AM
 
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Originally Posted by PassTheChocolate Because sex offenders have the highest risk of repeating their (sex) crime.
Sex offenders (like paedophiles & serial rapists) cannot change what they are, they can only suppress it.
But the more they suppress their urge, the more it builds up.
Criminals, like burglars, only commit a crime because they need money and generally not because it is a condition they were born with.
I agree there. However, I am referring to more heinous crimes than burglary. Murder, as in the point the sex offender made above. Do you think there should be a registry for someone who has murdered a child, without sexually assaulting them? How about cases of repeated abuse, without the sexual element - child abuse and domestic violence?
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Old 03-09-2009, 04:39 AM
 
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Originally Posted by PassTheChocolate
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Do you think there should be a registry for someone who has murdered a child, without sexually assaulting them? How about cases of repeated abuse, without the sexual element - child abuse and domestic violence?
The type of crime (whether it was heinous or not) is irrelevant to me, but what is important is the reason why the crime was committed.
Serial predators (serial killers, serial rapists and serial paedophiles) should be killed immediately, because their return to society only poses a (huge) risk.
For serial predators the circumstances are irrelevant because they are driven by their own motivation, while other criminals are generally driven by circumstance.
I mean, when you’ve solved poverty you’ve already solved a large part of crime.
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Old 03-09-2009, 06:31 AM
 
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My answer is yes. People who commit acts of violence against children or women are almost always repeat offenders and the public has a right to know who these people are. I do appreciate the argument that once they are out of prison their 'debt to society' has been paid..., but that does not alter the fact they have a higher than 85% chance of BOTH repeating their offences and getting caught. At some point in time public safety outwieghs a criminal's rights post-prison.
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Old 03-09-2009, 06:58 AM
 
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As much as I agree that anyone that commits any violent crime against a child is the scum of the earth and deserves a horrible and painful death, I'm against any form of "registry".

Our legal system is set up to dish out a punishment based on the crime committed. Once that punishment has been fulfilled, that should be the end of it. If they've "served their time" and their debt to society has been paid, that should be it. If they're still considered a threat to society, then they should still be locked up - it's that simple.

Get rid of the registries and impose life sentences instead.
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Old 03-09-2009, 07:06 AM
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Drug Additcts are serial criminals, they'll steal their whole lives, also Kleptomaniacs steal and commit crime their whole lives, The fact is that some people have personality problems which compel them spend their lives as criminals. I worked with delinquent youths over 25 years ago and a few of the worst 15 year olds of the bunch are now still in and out of prison as 40 year old men, I think Pedophiles are driven by a biological need as well as a personality problem which IMO guarantees their recidivism
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Old 03-09-2009, 07:39 AM
 
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As much as I agree that anyone that commits any violent crime against a child is the scum of the earth and deserves a horrible and painful death, I'm against any form of "registry".

Our legal system is set up to dish out a punishment based on the crime committed. Once that punishment has been fulfilled, that should be the end of it. If they've "served their time" and their debt to society has been paid, that should be it. If they're still considered a threat to society, then they should still be locked up - it's that simple.

Get rid of the registries and impose life sentences instead.
I tend to agree with you. Although the sex offender registry is a good idea for pedophiles.
I mean should there be a registry for drunk driving offenses? For the repeat offenders, it'll only be a matter of time before they hurt or kill someone. There are people out there that have 9 offenses and are still driving. What about car accidents? If some one hit a child with their car and kills them (God forbid) accidentally should that person go on the registry as a child killer?
How about a registry for drug dealers? They're harming society as a whole by creating drug addicts that harm society as a whole. Up here in MA, you can have up to an ounce of marijuana and get $100 fine.

Some things just should not exist. Registries for criminal offenses is one of them.
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Old 03-09-2009, 07:57 AM
 
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I'd be okay if it listed repeat offenders, but not people who have only one conviction against them. People can and do make mistakes, and they can and do change.
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