What do you think of women who make false accusations? (against, family)

[DC at the Ridge]

Originally Posted by jtur88

A "date", to a woman is usually a fairly conspicuous event. She knows she is going out on a date. She makes certain preparations for it. If she is going on a date with a person she does not yet know and trust, why is it unreasonable for her to consider the different courses that might ensue, and prepare herself for the unsavory possibilities? Good lord, does a woman need ME to warn her that the guy might try to get her pants off against her will, and it is prudent to dress in a way that would make that difficult, instead of a lacy thong? If she's going to take along "Mad Money", why not wear "Mad Undies"?

I think you overestimate the importance of a date in a woman's life. I hardly ever make "preparations" for meeting a man for coffee or to go to movie. Dinner at Applebee's doesn't warrant extensive preparations. If we're going to catch a band at a local club, I don't need to dress up or put on the Ritz. I always have my debit card with me, so "mad money" is an anachronism. Personally, I don't wear thongs. But I don't wear granny underwear either. Because granny underwear isn't going to stop a rape from happening, and I don't live my life in fear that every man I meet is a potential rapist that I might have to gather evidence against. Why should any woman live in fear of men?

[jtur88]

Originally Posted by Greatday

- NO WOMAN should have to "prepare" to be raped. That is absolutely absurd!

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Are you one of the gun nuts on the other threads, that keeps shouting about how they need to be armed, to "prepare" to have their house broken into by crazed madmen who will murder their wife and kids?

[Greatday]

Originally Posted by jtur88

Are you one of the gun nuts on the other threads, that keeps shouting about how everyone should be armed, to "prepare" to have their house broken into by crazed madmen who will murder their wife and kids?

Seems I touched a nerve - well good.

The fact of the matter is, you condone a woman being raped. You have clearly tried to excuse it - to make excuses for rape.

OBTW, I'm not a gun nut.

Now, you on the other hand are a ......

[jtur88]

Meeting a person in a pubic place to have a cup of coffee is not likely to turn into a rape scene unless the woman in question agrees to go to a secluded place with the man. When a woman leaves here house, it is highly likely that she will be able to anticipate whether, before she returns home, she will accept an invitation from a man she does not trust to go to a secluded place with him.

A woman who goes to a secluded place voluntarily with a man she has no reason to trust, in your view, has absolutely no responsibility whatsoever to be prudent, or to even consider the possibility that something might go horribly wrong. But everybody else does. A pedestrian crossing the street. A person using an ATM machine. A driver in heavy traffic. All have a responsibility to be prudent, but a woman getting into a car with a guy she just met, no responsibility at all to be prudent. In fact, she is grossly insulted if anybody suggests that it might serve her well to be prudent.

All you people who are so worldly, explain to me just exactly how it is that all these women are getting themselves into places and situations in which there is such an overwhelming danger of being date-raped? And they are insulted if anyone asks "Why place your self in peril, when you know there is such danger?"

[Greatday]

Originally Posted by jtur88

Meeting a person in a pubic place to have a cup of coffee is not likely to turn into a rape scene unless the woman in question agrees to go to a secluded place with the man. When a woman leaves here house, it is highly likely that she will be able to anticipate whether, before she returns home, she will accept an invitation from a man she does not trust to go to a secluded place with him.

Once again, CLEARLY, you have no idea about todays "dating" scene.

You have not one stinkin' clue.

[helenejen]

Originally Posted by DC at the Ridge

Your entire premise rests on a woman anticipating that she will be a victim. Do you go through your life anticipating when you might be victimized? One out of three women will be raped or abused. And many, many more women will be the victims of sexual harassment, of stalking, of peeping toms, of sexual discrimination. You can't live in a world where you've removed all risks of these things happening. There isn't enough prudency in the world to do this.

According to Jtur88 there is. We should all have a chastity belt in our underwear drawer:

Originally Posted by jtur88

Are women aware, if they wish to go out on dates and not be date-raped, that they can easily and inexpensively purchase underwear that it would be impossible to remove or penetrate without an extreme degree of physical force, which could easily be shown to be rape? A woman who leaves home for a good time wearing a lacy thong is not a convincing accuser. It's like a woman going dancing in shoes two sizes too small, and blaming her date for her sore feet.

I'm not taking about dressing attractively or alluringly or fashionably---I'm talking about dressing invisibly in such a way that the underwear comes off quickly and easily if voluntary, or with clinical signs of trauma if involuntary. Pretty easy case to prove, either way.

Pure absurdity.

[Omaha Rocks]

Originally Posted by kb09

I have not read any post by these "hysterical women who have been screaming and crying on this thread." I've read rebuttals to the post of others (some of which I admit are quite testy), but that's all. I wonder where you are getting this from.

So... Do you ALSO believe that anybody who disagrees with you is condoning rape? And do you ALSO accuse anybody who disagrees with you of being a rapist?

Or is that only the hysterical hormone crazies that I have on IGNORE who do that?


I find it odd that you'd defend their behavior. That must mean that you condone, and participate in, it.

[Greatday]

Once again - JTUR88 wants to excuse rape.

THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR A WOMAN TO BE RAPED.

And, for jtur88 to continue to try to find or make excuses, shows that he condones rape. And, I'm beginning to think he himself may have raped some women.

[jtur88]

Originally Posted by DC at the Ridge

Your entire premise rests on a woman anticipating that she will be a victim. Do you go through your life anticipating when you might be victimized? One out of three women will be raped or abused. And many, many more women will be the victims of sexual harassment, of stalking, of peeping toms, of sexual discrimination. You can't live in a world where you've removed all risks of these things happening. There isn't enough prudency in the world to do this.

So don't bother closing your blinds---there is no point trying to defend yourself against peeping toms, so just leave all your windows wide open and turn on all the lights. And then call yourself a victim if somebody looks in.

[Greatday]

Originally Posted by jtur88

So don't bother closing your blinds---there is no point trying to defend yourself against peeping toms, so just leave all your windows wide open and turn on all the lights. And then call yourself a victim if somebody looks in.

FACT: You don't understand the dating scene today

FACT: You condone a woman being raped.

THERE IS NO EXCUSE, NONE, FOR A WOMAN TO EVER BE RAPED.