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Old 03-20-2009, 08:55 PM
 
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While I would agree that sometimes PC goes overboard, what about the situations where a little decorum should be in place becaue someone says something that they KNOW is wrong?
That's just common decency. It doesn't take PC to tell someone they're wrong in saying offensive things.

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What happens if your boss is a fool and you recognize him as such by his actions of constantly saying things that are offensive. Without PC rules, he would think that his actions are ok, which could eventually effect a career.

Now granted people should know better, but there are so many examples of them not knowing how to act makes an arguement for being PC.
So I would call him a moron and find a different job. People like that don't care whether they are PC or not, so it would be ineffective anyway. I don't think PC has anything to do with a moron.
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Old 03-20-2009, 08:55 PM
 
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There's a difference between not saying what exactly happens to be PC and what's blatantly racism, sexism, etc.

There's also a difference between a private joke and something said more publicly.
I'm not quite sure I understand the 1st part of your post. Can you maybe provide a bit more detail?

On the 2nd part. Yes I agree, there is a definite difference between those 2.
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Old 03-20-2009, 08:59 PM
 
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I'm not quite sure I understand the 1st part of your post. Can you maybe provide a bit more detail?

On the 2nd part. Yes I agree, there is a definite difference between those 2.
For example, am I supposed to use "black" or "African American"? It's hard to keep up.
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Old 03-20-2009, 08:59 PM
 
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That's just common decency. It doesn't take PC to tell someone they're wrong in saying offensive things.

That's just it though. if it was common decency, then wouldn't the person realize what was right and what was wrong? If it was so common, there would be no need for PC.

So I would call him a moron and find a different job. People like that don't care whether they are PC or not, so it would be ineffective anyway. I don't think PC has anything to do with a moron.
Not sure I agree with all of this. I think there are some people who are truly unaware of what they were saying. From what I see, this seems to happen with older people in the workplace, who aren't used to being around different types of people. In those cases, maybe having PC as a guideline can help them assimilate into a changing diverse work climate.
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Old 03-20-2009, 08:59 PM
 
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Frankly, i'm not exactly sure. Maybe PC was necessary for diversity in the workplace and other similar situations.

So maybe this is why PC came about. Maybe it was sort of a "control" mechanism to the status quo to help come to the realization that times were changing and a more welcoming environment was needed.
It's like we are in Jr. High and get our hands slapped every time we look at somebody funny.
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Old 03-20-2009, 09:02 PM
 
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For example, am I supposed to use "black" or "African American"? It's hard to keep up.
OK, well speaking as a BLACK person, it's ok with me if you use either term. I don't get offended at that The only thing that makes me cringe is "colored" because it reminds me of all the stuff during the 1950's and the signs that said "colored drinking fountains" and stuff like that. Notice though, I said cringe. Not necessarilay offended, because if the person didn't know better then I can't be offended.

Now referring to me as the N- word is just off limits, that just plain wrong.
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Old 03-20-2009, 09:03 PM
 
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Not sure I agree with all of this. I think there are some people who are truly unaware of what they were saying. From what I see, this seems to happen with older people in the workplace, who aren't used to being around different types of people. In those cases, maybe having PC as a guideline can help them assimilate into a changing diverse work climate.
Even if I bought that, PC isn't restricted to the workplace. It's everywhere. There was a poster who said she told her kindergartner to sit indian style on the floor and she was told she can't say that anymore, they say criss cross applesauce because indian style isn't PC. IN KINDERGARTEN. IT'S SICKENING. PC has permeated every aspect of life.
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Old 03-20-2009, 09:04 PM
 
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It's like we are in Jr. High and get our hands slapped every time we look at somebody funny.
There is probably some overkill on both sides, but if more people had decorum in what they say, PC would just go away.
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Old 03-20-2009, 09:06 PM
 
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Even if I bought that, PC isn't restricted to the workplace. It's everywhere. There was a poster who said she told her kindergartner to sit indian style on the floor and she was told she can't say that anymore, they say criss cross applesauce because indian style isn't PC. IN KINDERGARTEN. IT'S SICKENING. PC has permeated every aspect of life.
Well..you don't have to BUY it...i've experienced it, so you can choose to believe it or not.

I've already commented on that, I said that that comment was probably overkill because she wasn't trying to offend anyone. I think the people who told her not to say it were being a little oversensitive.
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Old 03-20-2009, 09:07 PM
 
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OK, well speaking as a BLACK person, it's ok with me if you use either term. I don't get offended at that The only thing that makes me cringe is "colored" because it reminds me of all the stuff during the 1950's and the signs that said "colored drinking fountains" and stuff like that. Notice though, I said cringe. Not necessarilay offended, because if the person didn't know better then I can't be offended.

Now referring to me as the N- word is just off limits, that just plain wrong.
I agree....but why is referring to me as a cracker OK?
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