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Old 09-17-2009, 05:04 AM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
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Funny thing was--he wasn't an Aryan himself. He wasn't blond with blue eyes--so in the end, they would have had to have eliminated him as well.
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Old 09-17-2009, 09:17 AM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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Japan and Germany were Allies at the time.
Hitler wanted his "perfect race" to rule the world..
It seems like we could have just stood back and let the Germans and the Japanese play that out, and see what happens. If you missed the irony in that, let us know and somebody will explain it to you.

Most of all, thank the veterans who fought to stop his reign of terror. . . . . Most of whom were Russians.
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Old 09-17-2009, 01:08 PM
 
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wars are always fought for economic reasons. you can cloak it with whatever kind of ideals you want to get people to fight, but it comes down to money. always.
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Old 09-17-2009, 01:10 PM
 
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It seems like we could have just stood back and let the Germans and the Japanese play that out, and see what happens. If you missed the irony in that, let us know and somebody will explain it to you.

Most of all, thank the veterans who fought to stop his reign of terror. . . . . Most of whom were Russians.
you do know stalin killed more people than hitler
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Old 09-17-2009, 03:15 PM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
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Plus they only fought Germany because Hitler broke the nonaggression pact...
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Old 09-17-2009, 04:07 PM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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you do know stalin killed more people than hitler
That is not relevant to this discussion and your earlier comment. Do you know that for every American killed in WWII, there were 20 uniformed Russian servicemen killed in action? If you want to thank someone for stopping Hitler's reign of terror, it is those Russian who are deserving of your thanks.
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Old 09-17-2009, 05:36 PM
 
Location: Washington DC
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By what logic was it the USA, and not Japan, that had a natural right to islands in the mid Pacific, and a right to militarize them and use them as bases? While we recognized the right of Britain and France to own islands in the Pacific, but not he Japanese.
When did Japan ever assert a right to the Hawaiian Islands? As even you pointed out, they attacked the US military forces there. They came to fight the US military. We obliged and kicked their asses. They are lucky we didn't treat Japan the way they treated Korea and China. We were more civilized.
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Old 09-17-2009, 05:40 PM
 
Location: Washington DC
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An attack on a US military base outside the contiguous USA, manned and armed in a threatening posture, effectively equates to self defense. The attack on the USS Cole was NOT an attack on the US, FYI. The shooting down of Gary Powers U2 spy plane was NOT an attack on the US, FYI. IEDs on the side of Iraqi roads are NOT attacks on the US, FYI. I don't know if you have any familiarity with this planet or not, but there are other sovereign countries who have self-interest rights of defense.

There is no inviolable cosmic absolute law that you must respond to an attack with sufficent all-out force to totally destroy the attackers along with a half-million civilians.

The OP question is why did the US choose to counterattack Japah, when we had alternate choices, such as just beef up our sleeping defense and dare them to attack us again.
You should actually check international law because your ass is hanging out like that of a Barbary Ape. An attack on any country's warships is an act of war by definition.

You don't have to respond and smush the little f*kers like a bug. But we did the world and their civilian population a favor.

Why did we respond to Japans attack? To teach them manners.
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Old 09-17-2009, 05:50 PM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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When did Japan ever assert a right to the Hawaiian Islands? As even you pointed out, they attacked the US military forces there. They came to fight the US military. We obliged and kicked their asses. They are lucky we didn't treat Japan the way they treated Korea and China. We were more civilized.

It was still a colonial world then, and territories were open game, including the ones that we lorded over.

Yes, the sign or our "more civilized" is that we only pick on countries that can't defend themselves. Iraq, Panama, Vietnam . . . and we still get our asses kicked.
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Old 09-17-2009, 05:52 PM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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You should actually check international law because your ass is hanging out like that of a Barbary Ape. An attack on any country's warships is an act of war by definition.

Why did we respond to Japans attack? To teach them manners.
That was a good reason to nuke a half a million civilians. Of all the reasons Ive ever heard for us to go into a war, that is by far the most childish. Like a third grade bully beating up on somebody until he says Please.

Speaking of childish, before you get overly creative in your ad-hominem attacks, I did not say they did not commit an act of war. I said they did not attack the United States. Attacking an American ship on the high seas or in our distant colonial empire may be an act of war, but it is not an attack on our country.

Can you link me to that definition from international law?

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