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Old 09-21-2009, 02:19 PM
 
Location: Washington DC
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The bottom line is that if you attack the United States, you shouldn't expect any mercy or quarter. The people in power in Japan at the time needed to be removed from power. That was our decision to make and I fully support it. For those Japanese apologists on the board, knock yourselves out. We bombed Japan and beat the snot out of them. We then publicly humiliated their leaders in a surrender ceremony. Since then Japan has been a very peaceful nation. Germany too. Maybe the lesson was learned.

Too bad the United States didn't learn more from WWII.
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Old 09-21-2009, 02:20 PM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
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And we still occupy those countries, so what else would they be? We could end up nuking them again if either of them got out of line--seeing as how we're the only country that's ever used the nuclear weapon in battle.
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Old 09-21-2009, 03:26 PM
 
Location: Washington DC
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And we still occupy those countries, so what else would they be? We could end up nuking them again if either of them got out of line--seeing as how we're the only country that's ever used the nuclear weapon in battle.
The occupation of Germany and Japan ended in the 50s. We have troops there based upon mutual defense. Those troops control nothing in the country.

Yeah we have always been willing to use our nukes. No sense in having a weapon if you're not willing to use it. But we've never threatened either of these countries since WWII ended.
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Old 09-21-2009, 04:35 PM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
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If you have troops there, they can be used against the civilian population at any time.

To add to that, we forced Japan to deny itself its own military force as a condition when we rewrote its Constitution.
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Old 09-21-2009, 06:53 PM
 
Location: Washington DC
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If you have troops there, they can be used against the civilian population at any time.
Do you secretly work for Orly Taitz?

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To add to that, we forced Japan to deny itself its own military force as a condition when we rewrote its Constitution.
Yeah, so what? Japan was a country of scumbags then. They needed to be crushed.
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Old 09-21-2009, 07:33 PM
 
Location: Norwood, MN
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I am amazed that so many americans don't know that Germany & Italy declared war on the United States on 11th December 1941.
They did declare war, but we still had no reason to fight them unless they attacked us first, like Japan did.
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Old 09-22-2009, 05:24 AM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
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RLChurch...and to this day, it is illegal for them to have a military.
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Old 09-22-2009, 05:55 AM
 
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I'm sorry I haven't read ALL the post on this thread, but I think there is very good evidence that in both WW I & II we were pushed into it by unseen forces. Did you know the Lusitania was originally designed as a battleship? It was stuffed full of munitions at the time and was intentionally led into U-boat infested waters (by order of W. Churchill). Also the escorts were called off when just when they were needed the most. People like J.P. Morgan and Col. House were very influencial on President Wilson (they put him in office) because they made millions in selling arms to both sides. They needed a 'Pearl Harbor' like event to rally the public to war. After the sinking of the Lusitania, anyone expressing an isolationist attitude was labeled a traitor. The same thing happened with Pearl Harbor/WWII (and also 911/Iraq & Aftganistan, AFAIC). Its the same old Problem - Reaction - Solution. We flag waving idiots fall for it everytime but fail to see the men controlling the levers behind the curtain. My references are:

'The Creature From Jeckyll Island' by G. Edward Griffin
'The Shadows of Power' by James C. Perloff

If you want to read the related chapters in these books, you may be curious to look into who funded the Russian revolution and Hitler. It was the same people who pushed us into these wars to further their cause.
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Old 09-22-2009, 06:43 AM
 
Location: Washington DC
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RLChurch...and to this day, it is illegal for them to have a military.
You confuse constitutional with legal, but we'll let that slide. I think we had a very positive impact. The Japanese do have a military for defense. IMO we should consider that model. There's no reason to send young men and women to the Middle East to defend Exxon's profits.
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Old 09-22-2009, 06:50 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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Our national honor and our servicemen's lives have always be used as a sacrifice on the Grand Alter of Mammon. The financiers, industrialists and shippers have always pushed for War because that made them more money than anything else. War creates profits for the suppliers and hell for the soldiers. Always has and always will.
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