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Old 11-14-2012, 05:13 AM
 
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NO! Taking responsibility is to get an abortion, and go back to school, and don't make a HUGE drama over it. It was HER MISTAKE to not get protection, and it was her parents mistake to not teach her right. A 16 year old has NO BUSINESS having sex for one, and getting pregnant is not some fashion she needs to keep up with, it is stupid, and retarded. Anyone getting pregnant before turning at least 20 is IRRESPONSIBLE, and the reason we waste WELFARE on people who could work just fine and take responsibility of their lives, by getting an education, a job, etc. This is not the 15th century where girls were married by their parents at 14!!! this is 2012, no one has to do this, and parents no longer buy their girls husbands! WTF! Her parents should have taught her MORALS before she turned 10! So by 16 that child can make an educated decision, and be fully aware of the consequences of SUCH ACTIONS.

WHY in God's name should her parents offer to babysit? How is this their job exactly? they were not the one's making poor decisions, aside from NOT bringing her up appropriately and teaching her manners and morals when they should have! They should go to jail for child abuse. It IS child abuse in both cases: getting an abortion before turning 20, AND/OR having a child before that age.



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For example, 16-year-old Suzie gets pregnant. She takes responsibility for her actions by not having an abortion and by getting a job and paying for medical care associated with pregnancy and eventually for supporting her child. She also takes responsibility by staying in school.

Her parents do the moral thing by helping her by babysitting while she is at work and school, allowing her and her child to live with them, and helping with finances if Suzie is trying. Her boyfriend also does the moral thing by getting a job and helping as well. Her boyfriend's parents also do the moral thing and help.

See how that works? Suzie is held responsible and accountable, yet her parents, her boyfriend, and her boyfriend's parents help.

 
Old 11-14-2012, 05:22 AM
 
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Is the lack of morals that seems to be so present in today's world destroying our society?

I'm NOT talking about religion. I'm talking about general morals..
Without religion there are no moral standards. It is God that told us what is right and wrong. Left to ourselves we make up our own rules, such as killing unborn babies is OK, and marriage between same sexes is acceptable. The answer to your basic question is yes, deteriorating morals are destroying our society.
 
Old 11-14-2012, 05:30 PM
 
Location: West Palm Beach
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Without religion there are no moral standards.
It's thinking like this, that scares the living sh*t out of me.
 
Old 11-15-2012, 12:14 AM
 
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It's thinking like this, that scares the living sh*t out of me.
You have good reason to be afraid.
 
Old 11-15-2012, 05:01 AM
 
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That's bull***t!
The YEAR IS 2012, and it is COMMON SENSE that tells me to put my clothes away, do my own laundry, not get pregnant at 16 or earlier, that tells me that without getting a good education I won't have a good job, that would pay for the stuff I might want to buy! It is NOT religion that tells me that!

"Religion" needs to GET THE HELL OUT OF POLITICS, and people need to stop putting everything on religion! it is retarded, we all know where the stars are today, and what they are made off! Enough with this crap! Learn to TAKE RESPONSIBILITY, read "Common Sense" and memorize it, and stop blaming uneducated children on the lack of religion, blame their parents for being forced to work, not getting maternity leave, and having to dump them in daycares (for insane costs) where NO ONE spends ONE ON ONE time teaching manners, teaching them to say: "please and thank you", and so on!!!!!!!!!!

It wasn't "God" who sent troops to Iraq, it was BUSH! let's stop blaming everything on religion. Ppl made up "Religion" because there was no advanced science at that time! Simple as that. Now we KNOW enough to stop living 5000 years ago! "God" is not responsible for people's mass stupidity, and lack of COMMON SENSE that comes from LACK OF PARENTING!!!
Too many people have children for the sake of having children, and not for the sake of bringing up EDUCATED RESPONSIBLE ADULTS!

"This same sex marriage" is nothing more than a lifestyle choice, its disgusting, and people want it so much because married people claim more money back at TAX TIME! "God" has NO involvement here! Its MONEY! It has nothing to do with common sense, but everything to do with ripping the country out of money.

"Killing unborn babies"! Let me tell you something: getting pregnant today before getting married is the dumbest thing in the world, and it falls BACK on the parent again! Not "God". The parent should parent and teach how to use condoms, and how to take pills which are READILY AVAILABLE, so for some stupid girl to get pregnant these days it just shows she grew up being raised by the wolfs, and not people. Educated people will not allow for that to happen, and when I say "educated" I am by no means referring to someones DEGREE! Nope, common sense education. Teaching right from wrong, or smart versus stupid. If you're under 20, 25, unmarried, still in school, no career to speak off, YOU need to get an abortion and NOT bring a bastard into this world to live off WELFARE = my tax dollars! I work for that money, and get taxed to pieces so that public schools have support, the roads are maintained, to have comprehensive public transit, and other services that support the infrastructure of a city, and not so I can pay for your stupidity of not using a condom, or a pill! Get over yourselves, this is all about COMMON SENSE, and actually using your own brain, and not blame your stupidity on "God"!



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Without religion there are no moral standards. It is God that told us what is right and wrong. Left to ourselves we make up our own rules, such as killing unborn babies is OK, and marriage between same sexes is acceptable. The answer to your basic question is yes, deteriorating morals are destroying our society.
 
Old 11-15-2012, 05:37 AM
 
Location: Beautiful Rhode Island
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quote: Christianity teaches that if you have two coats, you must give one away to someone who has none.


So who is a practicing Christian today- certainly not Romney or Ryan nor the religious right. Anyone practicing real Christianity is branded a "socialist".
 
Old 11-21-2012, 02:28 PM
 
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quote: Christianity teaches that if you have two coats, you must give one away to someone who has none.


So who is a practicing Christian today- certainly not Romney or Ryan nor the religious right. Anyone practicing real Christianity is branded a "socialist".
that's a bunch of baloney ! p.s. Hi Holly.
look, GIVING charitably is one thing, forcibly separating a person
from the fruits of their labor to distribute them to others and to agendas
the person does not agree with is something else entirely.
 
Old 11-25-2012, 08:12 AM
 
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Perhaps looking up Baruch Spinoza would be helpful to those who first must learn ethics. With a strong ethical structure, you can create healthy morals, principals to follow or simply acknowledge karma.
 
Old 11-26-2012, 07:57 PM
 
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It's thinking like this, that scares the living sh*t out of me.
Many view a smug hypocrisy as the equivalent to a good morality-> that's why they created religion.
 
Old 11-26-2012, 08:00 PM
 
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quote: Christianity teaches that if you have two coats, you must give one away to someone who has none.


So who is a practicing Christian today- certainly not Romney or Ryan nor the religious right. Anyone practicing real Christianity is branded a "socialist".
No, they are subconciously working to revive the glory days of the Vatican by altering the current systems of government into a quasi-religious entity caring for all their needs.
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