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Old 04-23-2009, 12:34 PM
 
Location: The Frenchie Farm, Where We Grow 'em Big!
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For those who have read my post about the GLBT community and gay rights, I promise this is not a bashing thread. I read an interesting article from the NY Times.

Faked Evidence of “Gay Conversion”? - TierneyLab Blog - NYTimes.com

By all means, I'm not going to say,"AH HA!" I'm not saying it doesn't work. I have met some "former" gays and say they have been converted, whether be by social, spiritual, or ....whatever the case.

My question is....Can a finding like this have an impact?

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Old 04-23-2009, 01:22 PM
 
Location: Up in the air
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My take on it is that you can only repress, not convert. I really don't think that therapy could make me into a lesbian, so why would you think it would work on the gays?

You are what you are.
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Old 04-23-2009, 03:14 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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People are what they are, there's nothing wrong with that. I wonder why so many people must try and change people to be like them, it's a huge amount of wasted effort and intense frustration that can be used for something else more productive. If all the wasted effort to force people to think and believe the same thing could be channeled into something like solving clean energy, it would be solved very quickly.
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Old 04-23-2009, 06:29 PM
 
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I think the fact is that some people are more flexible than others when it comes to who they sleep with. It's only the ridiculous socio-religious pressure on GLBTs to stop being what they are that makes people even discuss this sort of thing.
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Old 04-24-2009, 05:30 PM
 
Location: Nebraska
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Any time there is a perceived 'need', some con artist will step up to the plate and convince others that s/he can fulfill that need. Some people need to hear that "unacceptable" behavior can be changed through therapy, or by some healing herbs, or by some healer with the laying on of hands. Most - dare I say, all? - of the time it's a scam. The only person who can change behavior of ANY type is the person who is practicing that behavior - and they have to want to, as well as be physically, mentally, and emotionally able to. IMHO, most folks are hardwired into what they will and won't do by the time that they are seven - and how they react is based on their experiences in life up til then. That has nothing to do with genetic things that are NOT a choice, however - like having blue or brown eyes, red or blonde hair, or preferring one sex to another. So while folks may change their behavior, they cannot change their genetics, no matter if society decides that being blonde means being stupid or being gay means being perverted.
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Old 04-25-2009, 06:14 PM
 
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NEVER trust a man with a bible in his hand.......... NEVER!
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Old 04-25-2009, 08:55 PM
 
Location: Nova Scotia
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For those who have read my post about the GLBT community and gay rights, I promise this is not a bashing thread. I read an interesting article from the NY Times.

Faked Evidence of “Gay Conversion”? - TierneyLab Blog - NYTimes.com

By all means, I'm not going to say,"AH HA!" I'm not saying it doesn't work. I have met some "former" gays and say they have been converted, whether be by social, spiritual, or ....whatever the case.

My question is....Can a finding like this have an impact?

This comment of yours made me really laugh I have met some "former" gays and say they have been converted, Really? have they actually converted or are they tired of hearing people talk about the gay issue and decided it was easier to say they converted? I mean really that comment you made makes it sound like they had someone knock at their door with scripture and decided this way is better. Give me a break you can not change what you are born with.
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Old 04-25-2009, 09:03 PM
 
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This comment of yours made me really laugh I have met some "former" gays and say they have been converted, Really? have they actually converted or are they tired of hearing people talk about the gay issue and decided it was easier to say they converted? I mean really that comment you made makes it sound like they had someone knock at their door with scripture and decided this way is better. Give me a break you can not change what you are born with.
If they were "converted" then they were bisexual and not gay, and they're merely restricting themselves to relations with the opposite sex.
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Old 04-25-2009, 09:10 PM
 
Location: Nova Scotia
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Oh my good lord, yes that is the case *rolls eyes*
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