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Unread 05-07-2009, 04:49 AM
 
Location: NY & Fl
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Instead of wasting all this time here, why don't you and your little group get together and put ads in the papers in your state(I'll limit the area to keep it easier for you)guaranteeing every woman considering abortion that you will support her ,in whatever way necessary, during her pregnancy and guarantee that you will take the baby after its birth.
You'd probaby be more effective than you're being here.
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Unread 05-07-2009, 05:34 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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Not enough. The anti-abortion folks should provide economic support for the mother and children until the children are through with college. I think this is called by the by the anti abortion types as the generally despised WELFARE system.

Anti-abortion folks are primarily interested in controlling women for the convenience of the patriarchal overlords. The children are irrelevant to this goal except as a tool to increase the control of women by a class of generally weak men.
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Unread 05-07-2009, 06:24 AM
 
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Instead of wasting all this time here, why don't you and your little group get together and put ads in the papers in your state(I'll limit the area to keep it easier for you)guaranteeing every woman considering abortion that you will support her ,in whatever way necessary, during her pregnancy and guarantee that you will take the baby after its birth.
You'd probaby be more effective than you're being here.
You know the funny thing? Conservatives already do this. We do most of the adoptions, we are far more generous in charitable per capita contributions than liberals, and we contribute more to the tax system that gives money to these people.

In short, conservatives do most of the heavy lifting in caring for kids while protecting young children not yet born. Liberals do nothing except call for the extermination of these babes.

And yet liberals are always the one giving out smug sanctimonious lectures. The hypocrisy is just stunning.
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Unread 05-07-2009, 06:34 AM
 
Location: NY & Fl
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You know the funny thing? Conservatives already do this. We do most of the adoptions, we are far more generous in charitable per capita contributions than liberals, and we contribute more to the tax system that gives money to these people.

In short, conservatives do most of the heavy lifting in caring for kids while protecting young children not yet born. Liberals do nothing except call for the extermination of these babes.

And yet liberals are always the one giving out smug sanctimonious lectures. The hypocrisy is just stunning.
You know another funny thing?
You didn't address my suggestion that you do something more immediately effective than remotely throw some dollars at this situation and spend time here giving out smug sanctimonious lectures.
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Unread 05-07-2009, 08:53 AM
 
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Since you admit I have proven my case that human life begins at conception, what priority could ever be more important than it's moral right to live?

If I got the Nobel, I would immediately contribute the money to Catholic Relief Services or some other pro-life organization. I would do this because it would rankle the hell out of the atheist socialist folks who give this award. I would also send a flunky to Norway to pick it up, because I wouldn't want to waste time spending it in that socialist hell hole.

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Unread 05-07-2009, 09:02 AM
 
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I've been asked to repeat this several times. Here it is. This simple definition should effectively end the abortion debate for all time. But it won't, because the pro-abortion side isn't interested in facts or logic.

Here it is. Short. Simple. Ironclad.

A human embryo from the moment of conception is exactly the same genetically as the adult human being it will become (barring premature death) except in stage of development. There is no other difference. Period.

This definition has ended many abortion arguments. Nobody has ever been able to dispute or find an exception that invalidates any part of it.
See, I don't think you understand the abortion debate.

It is not pro-choice=abortions will be performed vs. pro-life=abortions will not be performed. It is pro-life=abortions will be performed safely vs. pro-life=abortions will be performed by knitting needles by the poor and the rich will fly somewhere to have them done.

I can agree human life starts earlier than some pro-choicers argue but I still believe in choice b/c all you do by making it illegal is make it very dangerous. History has shown that. Irrefutable proof.
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Unread 05-07-2009, 09:05 AM
 
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Since you admit I have proven my case that human life begins at conception, what priority could ever be more important than it's moral right to live?

If I got the Nobel, I would immediately contribute the money to Catholic Relief Services or some other pro-life organization. I would do this because it would rankle the hell out of the atheist socialist folks who give this award. I would also send a flunky to Norway to pick it up, because I wouldn't want to waste time spending it in that socialist hell hole.
Well I see you've still got your sense of humour at least!

I think the Athiest socialist folks are pretty safe!
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Unread 05-07-2009, 09:14 AM
 
Location: planet octupulous is nearing earths atmosphere
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hay eeeeeeeeeeeeeee if some woman is brutally beaten up to within inches of her life and raped and gets pregnant.. should she have the rapest child..
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Unread 05-07-2009, 09:26 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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"Of course she should. She is only paying for the sin of enticing her rapist. Then she should raise the child as greater evidence of her guilt. All women are guilty of the sin of using sex to distract men from the worship of the Lord."

I actually heard this from the mouth of a preacher. I then asked him how much he charged her for his wisdom. I think he wanted to clobber me but refrained.
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Unread 05-07-2009, 12:09 PM
 
Location: Under a bridge.
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You know the funny thing? Conservatives already do this. We do most of the adoptions, we are far more generous in charitable per capita contributions than liberals, and we contribute more to the tax system that gives money to these people.

In short, conservatives do most of the heavy lifting in caring for kids while protecting young children not yet born. Liberals do nothing except call for the extermination of these babes.

And yet liberals are always the one giving out smug sanctimonious lectures. The hypocrisy is just stunning.
Have YOU adopted any children>.....or once again are you still ignoring questions......people who can't answer questions don't deserve a debate.
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