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Old 05-09-2009, 11:11 AM
 
Location: 125 Years Too Late...
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Originally Posted by Tricky D View Post
not everyone should carry a firearm.
Especially not people who ... are addicted (or have been addicted) to drugs or are just clinically insane.
That makes sense.

 
Old 05-09-2009, 11:12 AM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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Originally Posted by Tricky D View Post
There is no need to immediately kill an intruder.
Only if he is under the influence of drugs will I immediately use (lethal) violence. And only because drugs make people unpredictable.
Otherwise I'll always try to talk people down 1st before I decide to use violence.
You won't know if they are on drugs or not. They are pointing a gun at you and their finger is on the trigger. You only have a split second to make a decision to kill them or be killed?

Your decision?
 
Old 05-09-2009, 11:13 AM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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That makes sense.
This already codified. It is already part of our gun laws.
 
Old 05-09-2009, 11:27 AM
 
Location: The Netherlands
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Originally Posted by Greatday
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You won't know if they are on drugs or not. They are pointing a gun at you and their finger is on the trigger. You only have a split second to make a decision to kill them or be killed?

Your decision?
Don't you presume to be able to tell me what I'm capable or not capable of.
I know what I'm capable of.
So you already have my answer.
(Which should not be unfamiliar to you because you keep asking me questions you have asked me before.)
 
Old 05-09-2009, 11:30 AM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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Originally Posted by Tricky D View Post
Don't you presume to be able to tell me what I'm capable or not capable of. I know what I'm capable of.
So you already have my answer.
Two similar scenarios:

You

Me

You? Dead

Me? Alive

Seems fair

Dang it, I love this new GLOCK!
 
Old 05-09-2009, 11:33 AM
 
Location: The Netherlands
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Originally Posted by Greatday
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Two similar scenarios:

You

Me

You? Dead

Me? Alive

Seems fair

Dang it, I love this new GLOCK!
You keep presuming that I'm as old as you.
Or that I'm so stupid (or afraid like you?) that I'll keep staring at the barrel of your gun like a deer into headlights.
Once again a gun fethisist believes that the superiority of his firearm will decide the outcome of a battle.
 
Old 05-09-2009, 11:38 AM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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Originally Posted by Tricky D View Post
Originally Posted by Greatday You keep presuming that I'm as old as you.
Or that I'm so stupid (or afraid like you?) that I'll keep staring at the barrel of your gun like a deer into headlights.
Once again a gun fethisist believes that the superiority of his firearm will decide the outcome of a battle.
In other words, before you are allowed to have a gun, you need to be proficient at quick draw. What chance to you have if your gun is in a drawer, the ammo is locked in a closet in the other room, and they guy you are defending yourself against has the safety off and his trigger on the finger when he comes through the door?
 
Old 05-09-2009, 11:45 AM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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According to FBI statistics, how many white Americans over the age of 25 were murdered by a stranger with a gun in 2006? ANS: 490. (The number over age 50 was 86. Less than two per average-sized state, like Missouri or Virginia.)

My chances it will happen to me are about three out of a million. Consider that a fast-lane lifestyle would account for a large share of those (not all victims are random) the odds are even more in my favor.

I don't feel that those odds make it worthwhile to invest several hundred dollars in a gun, learn how to use it better than a likely assailant, and properly maintain it and secure it,

Last edited by jtur88; 05-09-2009 at 12:08 PM..
 
Old 05-09-2009, 11:49 AM
 
Location: The Netherlands
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Originally Posted by jtur88
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In other words, before you are allowed to have a gun, you need to be proficient at quick draw.
Nope.
My point is that people with guns assume that they already are prepared for any situation.
A gun is just a tool; the human mind (strategy and being prepared) is far deadlier than a gun.
That is why not everyone should be in the possession of a gun.
Greatday already has proven that he is willing to kill me to prove that he can.
Do you truly believe that someone with this kind of attitude should be given a gun?

Anywayz, I'm glad that I don't live in the US with so many gung ho people willing and able to kill others over an argument.
 
Old 05-09-2009, 11:51 AM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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Originally Posted by Tricky D View Post
Greatday already has proven that he is willing to kill me to prove that he can.
Oh please! That is c rap and you know it.
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