U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Great Debates
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
 
Old 05-09-2009, 11:55 AM
 
Location: The Netherlands
8,567 posts, read 14,516,394 times
Reputation: 1573

Advertisements

Originally Posted by Greatday
Quote:
Oh please! That is c rap and you know it.
Your direct messages prove otherwise.
There is positive proof of a hostile reaction from you towards me for merely disagreeing with you.
So stop pretending to be the injured party.

 
Old 05-09-2009, 11:57 AM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
25,107 posts, read 34,361,805 times
Reputation: 4893
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tricky D View Post
Your direct messages prove otherwise. There is positive proof of a hostile reaction from you towards me for merely disagreeing with you. So stop pretending to be the injured party.
Bull s hit. Pure Bull s hit
 
Old 05-09-2009, 11:58 AM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
25,107 posts, read 34,361,805 times
Reputation: 4893
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tricky D View Post
Anywayz, I'm glad that I don't live in the US .

Trust me - we are glad you don't live here also
 
Old 05-09-2009, 12:02 PM
 
Location: The Netherlands
8,567 posts, read 14,516,394 times
Reputation: 1573
Originally Posted by Greatday
Quote:
Bull s hit. Pure Bull s hit
That seems your standard answer when you're in complete denial.
You are nothing to blame, right?
Or are you now saying that you have never sent me any hostile direct messages?
 
Old 05-09-2009, 12:05 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
25,107 posts, read 34,361,805 times
Reputation: 4893
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tricky D View Post
That seems your standard answer when you're in complete denial.
You are nothing to blame, right?
Or are you now saying that you have never sent me any hostile direct messages?

You accuse me of threatening to kill you? That is a false accusation.

Go smoke more of the crack you smoke - you definitely are on something

Feel free though to PM any message I sent you where I threatened you. Go ahead.
 
Old 05-09-2009, 12:15 PM
 
Location: The Netherlands
8,567 posts, read 14,516,394 times
Reputation: 1573
Originally Posted by Greatday
Quote:
You accuse me of threatening to kill you?
Learn English, I accuse you of having sent me hostile direct messages.
That in combination with the willingness to kill me over an argument (in which you are armed with a gun while I'm not).
All the while accusing me of being a troll simply because I don't agree with your opinions.
And also a liar because you don't understand the gist of most of my posts; you keep insisting that Iím a pacifist who is against guns which simply never was the case.
Iím not a pacifist I just never use violence as my 1st option, nor am I for banning guns.
 
Old 05-09-2009, 12:38 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
25,107 posts, read 34,361,805 times
Reputation: 4893
Quote:
Originally Posted by jtur88 View Post
In other words, before you are allowed to have a gun, you need to be proficient at quick draw.
The other poster, living in a country that virtually bans private ownership of firearms (handguns) cannot come to grips with the freedom of gun ownership in this country.

He / She accuses all those that desire to own a firearm as being a "Rambo" wannabe. Of having a "Fetish".

He / She may not realize that the fastest growing group of handgun owners are Women. And additionally, women are the fastest growing group seeking concealed weapons permits.

We have had several occasions recently where a woman, being threaten with an attack, neutralized their attacker, and thus prevented harm to themselves.

We have had no reports of the attackers using the womans weapon on the woman.
 
Old 05-09-2009, 12:53 PM
 
Location: Victoria TX
42,668 posts, read 71,538,289 times
Reputation: 35864
IF you kids want to bicker, don't do it under MY quote. Nothing I say has any relevance to what you two are fussing about.
 
Old 05-09-2009, 01:00 PM
 
Location: In a house
5,230 posts, read 7,319,821 times
Reputation: 2558
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tricky D View Post
Originally Posted by Huckleberry3911948There is no need to immediately kill an intruder.
I agree, but its much more likely that the intruder will run off if faced with an armed victim. Thats proven fact. Happens a few million times a year here. 90% of the time no shot is fired.

Quote:
Only if he is under the influence of drugs will I immediately use (lethal) violence.
So, let me understand, you are going to wait to ascertain wether or not the guy is high & then, if he is, use lethal violence? Why would you let a man rape your wife if he wasn't high? Why would you let them hurt or kill your family?
How would you get ahold of lethal violence if you are old, the intruder is young & you live where you do?

Quote:
And only because drugs make people unpredictable.
Otherwise I'll always try to talk people down 1st before I decide to use violence.
And you don't need a firearm to use violence.
You dont need a gun to be violent, thats something I can agree with. But you can defend yourself against much more violence armed than not.
Because you choose to rely on your super human powers doesn't mean that guns arent effective for those less fortunate than you.
 
Old 05-09-2009, 01:13 PM
 
Location: In a house
5,230 posts, read 7,319,821 times
Reputation: 2558
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tricky D View Post
Originally Posted by Tin Knocker LoL, I guess my thought process is much to difficult for you to understand?
I wasn't talking about guns, but about people.
Not everyone should be armed (read in a militia).
At least that is my sole reason to regulate a militia; a gun is only a tool and in the hands of an idiot (or a psychopath) anything could become a menace to society.

Your thought process is that of a child. A stupid one at that.
A militia by definition is a group of armed civilians. That militia needs to be well regulated mostly so they can be controlled but also so they can be an effective fighting force.

But thats irrelevant, the relevant part of the Amendment in this discussion is not the militia justification clause, its the right that shall not be infringed because to infringe upon it would make militias an impossibility.

Try to understand, nothing in our constitution directly limits people, it all limits the govt. A free state needs to be able to form well regulated militias in case the feds get stupid. In order to ensure that ability always existed they chose to enumerate the right to keep & bear arms as one not to be infringed. If you took the time to learn our history, you would learn that there was opposition to the second amendment as well as the entire bill of rights. Many thought it beyond comprehension that anyone would ever question the peoples rights such as RKBA, speech, religion & so on.
Luckilly others had the foresight to know that with time people forget what it was that enabled them to be free in the first place, that people forgot what it was like to live without those freedoms & that in time they would be whittled away until we became what we fought to break free of.

You can keep your country & its laws, I'm glad you are happy, but rest assured that theres alot of folks in the USA that look at Europe & where its going today that remember we fought to break away from you, not follow you down the drain.

There never will be a gun free USA, because the USA will always be the best country going, we are free, we rule ourselves & if you dont like it go hang out at the European socialist.com.
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Closed Thread

Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Great Debates
Similar Threads
Follow City-Data.com founder on our Forum or

All times are GMT -6.

© 2005-2018, Advameg, Inc.

City-Data.com - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35 - Top