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Old 09-06-2009, 12:33 AM
 
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And the above Black folks need to get over it--------all human beings can trace their DNA back to Africa.
Yes, but mutations can make a difference. It only takes an atom, meh, even an extra proton or neutron or two to make a difference. E.g. compare U-235 to U-238 or Carbon Monoxide to Carbon Dioxide.

Most anecdotal and objective data suggest that groups that show what are commonly referred to as negroid traits are problematic (on average).

So this "we're all africans" thing is really a pointless arguement.

Border Collies and Pit Bulls are both dogs. They can mate. But they aren't the same thing.

 
Old 09-06-2009, 12:36 AM
 
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What a pointless Thread. Amazing how posters can comment with such confident authority on the inferiority of Black people.

The sum total of over 113 pages is that Blacks are stupid, low IQ wastrels who are destroying the fabric of Humanity and Civilization as a whole. Of course all those virtuous Whites, Asians, and Hispanics are hard working, family valuing loving high work ethic quintessential good people, whose eventual progress to success is being severely hampered by all those thug loving, welfare queen, low IQ OOW Black people who are destroying the fabric of Humanity and Civilization.

Of course, the added burden of having defective genes, a pathetic history that is not as advanced as Whites and Jews who won all those noble prizes is testament that nature made a mistake somehow and the Burden of Whites and others for carrying all those stupid, perpetual excuse making, disgusting Black people, is a waste of time and effort. So the solution to the problem requires that instead of Whites, Asians and Hispanics luxuriating in their blinding awesomeness is to take a cue and dispense with all those offensive Blacks.

Since you all think that we are less than human—eliminating the pox on humanity shouldn’t be a hard feat at all with all your superior intellectual and cultural currency at your disposal. And it would cease a compulsive need to generate endless threads trumpeting Why Blacks are sub-human species and inferior to everyone else.
Actually, though I'd prefer to avoid all things african, "inferior" is not the term I'd use.

Seems they, like many african strains, out populate and take over areas they are introduced to away from africa. So from a natural selection standpoint they may actually be "superior".

But for everyone else, that represents a problem. Because that superiority takes the form of aggressive physical violence, if commonly accepted measures of such things (like Department of Justice stats) are to be believed.

I'd use the term, "Invasive Species". See: Africanized Bees, LOL!

P.S. All this would probably go away, *if* there was some way for folks that want away from things african to do it without being harassed for it nor having integration forced on them by social convention, media and the law.

The screaming you hear about it is coming from those who want the freedom to live their own way. There's freedom "from" as well as freedom "to".

I realize it sux to be in a group folks want away from. I've certainly felt it. Any time I'm in a group of people from old money, or even Neuveax Riche, as a not-Richy-Rich, I certainly feel it. Every time a gal picks some other guy over me because he's better looking and/or richer, I feel it. So I know what it is.

But in the end it's thier choice to choose there associations. As it should be for all, no?
 
Old 09-06-2009, 03:48 PM
 
Location: Not where I want to be
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Apples and oranges, Jews were never stripped of their culture and identity the first thing that slavemaster did when they got new slaves was changed their names to the slave owners liking. I don't recall at anytime in history that Jews were forced to change their name,religion and customs. Native Americans were pretty much exterminated or sent to live on reservations but they were able to live the way that they wanted (and they got casinos) if you really can call it living in some cases. By the way how many Native Americans do you see regularly in the streets?
That's not true. At one point in time it was against the law to be Jewish and those that retained their identity were heavily taxed. They were pretty much forced into the Catholic Church, forced to eat swine as an example of their forced conversion. They were also prevented from worshiping on the Sabbath (Saturday) and entire synagogues were burnt to the ground, with perishioners inside. Look up Pogroms. The Hep-Hep riots in Frankfurt, 1819 and the 1905 pogrom of Jews in Odessa was the most serious pogrom of the period, with reports of up to 2,500 Jews killed. Read a little history my friend.

I am Native American....Cherokee in fact.
 
Old 09-06-2009, 04:10 PM
 
Location: Not where I want to be
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I don't think Jews blame America for any of those thousands of years of persecution, whereas African Americans have only America to blame, African Americans also don't blame England, Spain, France, Or even Mexico for not rescuing them from the persecution they suffered at the hands of the US government,
Are you saying that all Jews are observant or that you don't believe any one who says they know Jews who are not observant ?
You made the comment that Jews can't be compared to African Americans....I say they can and to a greater extent. I didn't say Americans were to blame. They just didn't help when they called upon to help. Slavery began way before America was founded so you can't blame America for that either.

I also did not say that ALL Jews were observant, just those I know. Just like you can't say that ALL Jews are non-observant. We must stop using ALL inclusive.

I have heard some say that slavery was the best thing that happened to people of color because, although a bloody start, they gained their independence in a free world. Can't say that for tribal Africans who lived in Rwanda where in 1994 almost a million died in 100 days. One might also recall that 1 in 2 adults are HIV positive and countless numbers of children are orphaned because their parents have died of AIDS. Sounds like the descendants of US slaves got the better end of the stick.

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Old 09-06-2009, 05:27 PM
 
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Actually, though I'd prefer to avoid all things african, "inferior" is not the term I'd use.

Seems they, like many african strains, out populate and take over areas they are introduced to away from africa. So from a natural selection standpoint they may actually be "superior".

But for everyone else, that represents a problem. Because that superiority takes the form of aggressive physical violence, if commonly accepted measures of such things (like Department of Justice stats) are to be believed.

I'd use the term, "Invasive Species". See: Africanized Bees, LOL!

P.S. All this would probably go away, *if* there was some way for folks that want away from things african to do it without being harassed for it nor having integration forced on them by social convention, media and the law.

The screaming you hear about it is coming from those who want the freedom to live their own way. There's freedom "from" as well as freedom "to".

I realize it sux to be in a group folks want away from. I've certainly felt it. Any time I'm in a group of people from old money, or even Neuveax Riche, as a not-Richy-Rich, I certainly feel it. Every time a gal picks some other guy over me because he's better looking and/or richer, I feel it. So I know what it is.

But in the end it's thier choice to choose there associations. As it should be for all, no?
Your faux sympathy is noted although I don’t see how being a rich white male compares to being a lip dragging Black person who is an offense to your supposed white sensibilities. However the alien infestation of Africans as you put it and their unrelenting wave of destruction on humanity and White Western European society can easily be redeemed, since our inferiority has no doubt caused you and others palpable concern about your ability to thrive and live separately without our corrosive influence.


There really is no need to use any tortured logic as to our supposed super superiority to wreck havoc on civilization. You all have noted in this thread and for centuries immemorial through philosophies such as Eugenics, that Africans and their descendants are sub-human, incapable of a soul, are annoying childlike and unable to reign in their base drives, use irrefutable evidence from Eugenicists, the Bell Curve FBI stats and our concerted inability to build civilizations like Whites, Jews and Asians, our unrelenting super-predator instincts at the expense of intelligence and reason, and being riddled with disease, destruction and desolation, thus there is only one option available.


As I stated in the beginning, since you and everyone else feels that our presence is blight on humanity, you all have the technology and fire power to carry out the solution in which you will be free from our sickening infestation. It’s really very simple. If you feel strong enough to espouse your thinly veiled disgust on a message board, then I am sure you will feel strong enough, along with a growing body of groups that include Asian, and Hispanic, to take corrective action and bring about this racial Utopia of which you believe you fervently deserve.
 
Old 09-06-2009, 05:41 PM
 
Location: I think my user name clarifies that.
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Originally Posted by JMadison View Post
Actually, though I'd prefer to avoid all things african, "inferior" is not the term I'd use.

Seems they, like many african strains, out populate and take over areas they are introduced to away from africa. So from a natural selection standpoint they may actually be "superior".

But for everyone else, that represents a problem. Because that superiority takes the form of aggressive physical violence, if commonly accepted measures of such things (like Department of Justice stats) are to be believed.

I'd use the term, "Invasive Species". See: Africanized Bees, LOL!

P.S. All this would probably go away, *if* there was some way for folks that want away from things african to do it without being harassed for it nor having integration forced on them by social convention, media and the law.

The screaming you hear about it is coming from those who want the freedom to live their own way. There's freedom "from" as well as freedom "to".

I realize it sux to be in a group folks want away from. I've certainly felt it. Any time I'm in a group of people from old money, or even Neuveax Riche, as a not-Richy-Rich, I certainly feel it. Every time a gal picks some other guy over me because he's better looking and/or richer, I feel it. So I know what it is.

But in the end it's thier choice to choose there associations. As it should be for all, no?
I don't understand how you've come to those conclusions, regarding people of African descent. I live in a black neighborhood in a black part of my city. Obviously, most of my neighbors are black. And they just aren't anything like what you're describing.
 
Old 09-06-2009, 06:24 PM
 
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People just don't get it do they? Lets say you have 100 black people and 99 of them are acting up, criminals. (and I know this is not true, but I'm making a point here) and 1, yes just 1 lives by the rules and obeys the laws. He, that one single individual should not be tossed into the same pile as the other 99! Its his right to stand alone and be the individual he is and not have the society around him, label him as are the other 99.

THAT IS PART OF THE AMERICAN DREAM! Not all of any race, or group is any one thing! Do you know how crappy threads like this make African Americans feel who work hard, obey the laws and are good people? So what if there is a higher percentage of criminals whom are black. The law will catch up to them on an individual basis, as it should. But to call all blacks, or Hispanics, this or that is just pure BS!
 
Old 09-06-2009, 09:44 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Yes, but mutations can make a difference. It only takes an atom, meh, even an extra proton or neutron or two to make a difference. E.g. compare U-235 to U-238 or Carbon Monoxide to Carbon Dioxide.

Most anecdotal and objective data suggest that groups that show what are commonly referred to as negroid traits are problematic (on average).

So this "we're all africans" thing is really a pointless arguement.

Border Collies and Pit Bulls are both dogs. They can mate. But they aren't the same thing.
Care to explain why the Irish had a worse reputation that even American Black slaves 150 years ago? And Irish folks are (almost) always White so your 'race card' stating that Black people are inferior has just been blown to smithereens.

The word is culture------------or, the lack thereof.
 
Old 09-06-2009, 09:49 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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What a pointless Thread. Amazing how posters can comment with such confident authority on the inferiority of Black people.

The sum total of over 113 pages is that Blacks are stupid, low IQ wastrels who are destroying the fabric of Humanity and Civilization as a whole. Of course all those virtuous Whites, Asians, and Hispanics are hard working, family valuing loving high work ethic quintessential good people, whose eventual progress to success is being severely hampered by all those thug loving, welfare queen, low IQ OOW Black people who are destroying the fabric of Humanity and Civilization.

Of course, the added burden of having defective genes, a pathetic history that is not as advanced as Whites and Jews who won all those noble prizes is testament that nature made a mistake somehow and the Burden of Whites and others for carrying all those stupid, perpetual excuse making, disgusting Black people, is a waste of time and effort. So the solution to the problem requires that instead of Whites, Asians and Hispanics luxuriating in their blinding awesomeness is to take a cue and dispense with all those offensive Blacks.

Since you all think that we are less than human—eliminating the pox on humanity shouldn’t be a hard feat at all with all your superior intellectual and cultural currency at your disposal. And it would cease a compulsive need to generate endless threads trumpeting Why Blacks are sub-human species and inferior to everyone else.
Factoring in that Blacks who immigrated freely from Africa along with their US born children are arguably the most successful socioeconomic group here tends to explode the misguided/racist theory that Blacks as a group are trash.
 
Old 09-07-2009, 02:52 AM
 
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i personally enjoyed this thread and learned a bit from it. i was reminded of the things blacks have gone through in america and how its really only been a half generation (or less) that hey have had to truly freely and without prejudice become one with our society. to correct my own tunnel vision of what they may or may not be doing wrong and how difficult some of the bad things are to fix.

this thread also gave me a place to talk about all the insane stuff a number (50%) of my black co workers have done or went through with immediate family members or just co workers affected by black criminals (murder, bank robbery, getting shot (co workers white dad shopping in the black part of town), abortions, attempted vehicular homicide,getting shot (co workers black son), threats of violence, murder again (friends friend was robbed and shot), and several co workers robbed and one robbed and held hostage) so i could stop feeling like my head was going to burst when i thought about it or had to deal with another threat to get stabbed or hit for no reason. in milwaukee here seeing race and class is really forced on you. i gotta a friend and she dates black guys and the last one's friend was shot (and killed if im not mistaken) and the new one has a bullet in his arm (supposedly).

i have no idea where i was going with this. keep in mind only like 85-90%+ of what i posted about the crimes and problems has been confirmed
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