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Old 05-24-2009, 10:15 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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Would we even consider seriously a 2nd Amendment?
Yes, I believe we would. And, considering the number of Americans that own firearms, I would not even consider Americans giving up that right.
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Old 05-25-2009, 08:30 AM
 
Location: Washington DC
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Yes, I believe we would. And, considering the number of Americans that own firearms, I would not even consider Americans giving up that right.
Clearly a false choice. Gun ownership is not predicated on a 2nd amendment.
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Old 05-25-2009, 08:32 AM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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Clearly a false choice. .
And clearly, that is only your opinion.
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Old 05-25-2009, 08:41 AM
 
Location: Washington DC
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And clearly, that is only your opinion.
And the Canadians, British, French, Germans, Irish, etc all of whom own guns in their countries, none of whom have an anachronistic 2nd amendment.
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Old 05-25-2009, 08:45 AM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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And the Canadians, British, French, Germans, Irish, etc all of whom own guns in their countries, none of whom have an anachronistic 2nd amendment.
Ownership of handguns is very limited also in those countries

And, the reason they do not have the 2nd Amendment is because - they are Canada, British, French, Germans, Irish etc - and not the United States of America.
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Old 05-25-2009, 08:59 AM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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Clearly a false choice. Gun ownership is not predicated on a 2nd amendment.
Right. Conntrary to the widely disseminated mantra of gun owners, Americans have the right to own pretty much whatever they please. The right to own whatever I please would remain intact, even without the 2nd Amendment, and my rights would include guns, perhaps excluding the kinds of guns whose proliferation could constitute a public danger and that no law abiding citizen would have any reasonable use for. Exactly as it is now.
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Old 05-25-2009, 09:06 AM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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If a new Constitution were to be written (as was the suggested topic of this thread), there is no guarantee that ownership of firearms, particularily handguns, would continue to be legal.

If there is a Constitutional Convention - EVERYTHING is on the table for change.
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Old 05-25-2009, 09:11 AM
 
Location: Orlando, Florida
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I wonder why people who choose NOT to own guns are so preoccupied with those who DO choose to own a gun. I don't have one, but it's not my business as to who else does.
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Old 05-25-2009, 09:34 AM
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Location: Near Manito
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Ownership of handguns is very limited also in those countries

And, the reason they do not have the 2nd Amendment is because - they are Canada, British, French, Germans, Irish etc - and not the United States of America.
Indeed. It would be particularly awkward for Britain to have such an amendment, since it has no written constitution per se at all.
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Old 05-25-2009, 09:59 AM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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I wonder why people who choose NOT to own guns are so preoccupied with those who DO choose to own a gun. I don't have one, but it's not my business as to who else does.
I suspect that if you were to go back through the archives, you would find that the great majority of the threads about gun regulation or registration or confiscation has been started by a poster who owns guns and during the discussion, takes the gun-owner's point of view. Which is a pretty good indicator of which side is pre-occupied. Furthermore, just about every thread on different topics that gets hijacked into a gun discussion, it will be a gun-owner who goes off-topic.
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