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Old 06-01-2009, 10:26 PM
 
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Originally Posted by jtur88 View Post
Mishigas, they could care less who crosses the border. That is a smoke screen. The objective is to gather information about you ALL the time, and requiring you to get an enhanced DL with a radio transmitter chip in it is almost as good as implanting the chip in the back of your neck. Don't you see that?
Absolutely not, apparently. The conspiracy theorists haven't gotten to me yet, I suppose.

Like I have said, I DON'T CARE if "they" know where I am. I don't care that they can pull up vast amounts of information about me at the border. I don't have anything to hide.

And, like I've also said, there is absolutely NO "requirement" for an enhanced driver's license. Passport works just fine. And, if you have trouble with that, there's a simple solution. Stay home. No one's forcing you to cross the border.
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Old 06-01-2009, 10:40 PM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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And, like I've also said, there is absolutely NO "requirement" for an enhanced driver's license. Passport works just fine. And, if you have trouble with that, there's a simple solution. Stay home. No one's forcing you to cross the border.
They creep. They tell you you can't open a bank account without photo ID. Then they tell you your photo ID is not good enough, you need a passport. Then they raise the price of a passport to 100 bucks and make you wait 2 or 3 months to get one, because they're so busy this time of year, and who wants to carry a book everywhere you go, so get the enhanced DL, its cheaper and will work for the same things. Now you carry a radio ransmitter around everywhere you go. Gotcha.

How many times do I have to tell you this-------

IT'S NOT ABOUT THE BORDER
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Old 06-01-2009, 10:42 PM
 
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IT'S NOT ABOUT THE BORDER
So, why do you keep on going with your erroneous notions about enhanced drivers licenses?

Jeez...it is really *that* hard to wrap your mind around the fact that someone simply doesn't feel that Big Brother is out to get them?
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Old 06-01-2009, 10:44 PM
 
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Oh, I see. It's the "marketing" of the enhanced driver's license. Has it ever occurred to you that it's about 1/2 the price because it's valid for about 1/2 the time?

Oh, no, logic like that doesn't have a place here.
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Old 06-01-2009, 10:46 PM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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So, why do you keep on going with your erroneous notions about enhanced drivers licenses?

Jeez...it is really *that* hard to wrap your mind around the fact that someone simply doesn't feel that Big Brother is out to get them?
How long do you think it will be before the Americans elect Big Brother? Ask your conservative friends, who will tell you that we already have. Why equip him in advance with everything he will ever need?
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Old 06-01-2009, 10:52 PM
 
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How long do you think it will be before the Americans elect Big Brother? Ask your conservative friends, who will tell you that we already have. Why equip him in advance with everything he will ever need?
And, gee, I'm terribly upset that "he" may know that I travel to Canada on Friday evenings, and come back to the US on Monday mornings. Oh dear..."he" may also know that I usually buy a case of Kokanee and a carton of Camel lights at duty free. Will "he" also know that I curl on Saturday mornings in Vancouver? *quakes*

My life just isn't that interesting. And, frankly, my "conservative friends" are the first ones to applaud when I'm stopped at the US border while they search my car. My mother, one of the most conservative people I know, was *thrilled* when they x-rayed my car on the US side of the border before I entered Canada.

But, with all of this said, what's the alternative? Our society simply wouldn't function without certain information being known. So, where's the cut off?
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Old 06-01-2009, 10:58 PM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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And, gee, I'm terribly upset that "he" may know that I travel to Canada on Friday evenings, and come back to the US on Monday mornings.?
It's not about the border. He will know if you play monopoly with your kids.

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Old 06-01-2009, 11:02 PM
 
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Ok, so, let me get this straight....it's not about the border, right?

So, if you actually look at what I have written...you would see that I asked you a pertinent question. Where would you draw the line as to what "he" knows about us in our everyday lives?

And, since you brought up the enhanced drivers license conspiracy, maybe you can humor me and respond to my notion that perhaps it's cheaper because it's valid for less time?

I know that sometimes it's hard to get away from what you think is a very important thing to point out repeatedly to someone you're having a discussion with, but I have faith that you can do it.
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Old 06-02-2009, 12:05 AM
 
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Heck if checking state to state stops illegal immigrants from coming into the country fine. My state has a license that can double as a passport.
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Old 06-02-2009, 12:14 AM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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I know that sometimes it's hard to get away from what you think is a very important thing to point out repeatedly to someone you're having a discussion with,
You're the one who repeatedly mentioned crossing the border in six different posts in the past 4 hours, in response to me, after I had explained that its not about the border. You didn't even dispute my point, you just kept going back to the border as if I had not said anything at all.
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