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Old 08-06-2009, 03:05 PM
 
Location: Chicago- Lawrence and Kedzie/Maywood
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It's funny how all these people say the MAN is the one who plays.

The woman doesn't?
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Old 08-06-2009, 06:52 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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It's funny how all these people say the MAN is the one who plays.

The woman doesn't?
Apparently women only have sex for reasons of procreation.
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Old 08-06-2009, 07:49 PM
 
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Apparently women only have sex for reasons of procreation.
I know more women that are sexually active then I do men.
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Old 08-06-2009, 08:06 PM
 
Location: Living on the Coast in Oxnard CA
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Well sure both the man and the woman are I hope having a great time in bed. both know the possible outcome of their actions and should be willing to step to the plate when those actions include another life. The argument is if the man should have to pay for his action or not. The woman has to pay one way or the other. Either she has the baby and chooses to keep it, has the baby and chooses to give it away, or has an abortion and ends the life of the baby. Any of those choices will have long lasting affects on the woman and the baby. Both parents should be part of the process. They together created this life. Why should the woman be the only one to pay for her actions?
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Old 08-07-2009, 12:51 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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Well sure both the man and the woman are I hope having a great time in bed. both know the possible outcome of their actions and should be willing to step to the plate when those actions include another life. The argument is if the man should have to pay for his action or not. The woman has to pay one way or the other. Either she has the baby and chooses to keep it, has the baby and chooses to give it away, or has an abortion and ends the life of the baby. Any of those choices will have long lasting affects on the woman and the baby. Both parents should be part of the process. They together created this life. Why should the woman be the only one to pay for her actions?
And if the man helps her with the adoption process and/or the abortion, or offers to giver her a mourning after pill? What then?

The point is, women have OPTIONS. Men, apparently to some people, don't have options.

Now who is sexist?
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Old 08-07-2009, 01:32 PM
 
Location: Living on the Coast in Oxnard CA
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For one thing this kind of makes the point that sex is something that a man and a woman that are married should be participating in. Too confusing other wise.
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Old 08-07-2009, 02:07 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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For one thing this kind of makes the point that sex is something that a man and a woman that are married should be participating in. Too confusing other wise.
See this is my problem,

Everyone who seems to be in favor of sticking it to the man, is either against abortion completely, or against premarital sex. IF YOU ARE ANTIABORTION OR ANTI SEX YOU AREN'T GOING TO GET THIS ARGUMENT.

Thats like arguing with a bear that they shouldn't hibernate in the winter. You may think they shouldn't hibernate at all, but its a damn bear, its going to hibernate one way or the other.

So, if you are against abortion, or against premarital sex, stay out of this debate. However, if you understand the human condition, and are ok with a womans right to choose, then please tell us how you feel.
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Old 08-07-2009, 03:52 PM
 
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And if the man helps her with the adoption process and/or the abortion, or offers to giver her a mourning after pill? What then?

The point is, women have OPTIONS. Men, apparently to some people, don't have options.

Now who is sexist?
Somehow this option never makes the list of options:
the man helps raise the child





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Old 08-07-2009, 03:59 PM
 
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Somehow this option never makes the list of options:
the man helps raise the child




Because that is how it is...no matter what the man WILL help the raise the child. If he is there in the childs life and if he is and pays child support. As it is MEN have to help raise the child. But a woman does not, she can choose to have an abortion and its all over.

Also, for those of you that keep bringing up the fact that the woman has to pay in various ways. Men share in those ways. If a woman gets an abortion it effects the man, if the woman has the kid and gives it up for adoption it effects the man. If the woman has the kid and chooses to raise him/her it effects the man. Oh, and no one say it effects the child as well...we all know this...so leave it.
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Old 08-07-2009, 04:49 PM
 
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I didn't read the entire thread but the fact of the matter is that the laws are there to protect the child. The parents aren't even considered once the woman decides that she will keep the child.
Being there, not being there, that is not an obligation that the law concerns itself with. But, if the man chooses not to be a part of the child's life emotionally, he still has to help financially. I personally prefer it this way and wish it was enforced more rigorously. Not paying child support should be considered a felony and guarantee you jail time. I shouldn't have to pay for another man's mistakes with my taxes.
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