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Old 06-12-2009, 08:46 AM
 
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"BTW NO ONE is calling any woman a **** or otherwise...and the guys were never "lured" into anything... That is a bunch of baloney..... "

Sorry. My use of sarcasm was off the mark, apparently.
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Old 06-12-2009, 08:49 AM
 
Location: Texas
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I'm a woman, and I think it's a pretty gray area, too.

You get no say in whether the kid lives or dies, but you have to pay no matter what...

Mmmm...yeah...I don't know about that.
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Old 06-12-2009, 09:01 AM
 
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"BTW NO ONE is calling any woman a **** or otherwise...and the guys were never "lured" into anything... That is a bunch of baloney..... "

Sorry. My use of sarcasm was off the mark, apparently.
I didn't realise it was sarcasm Opps!!! I'm sorry about that....
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Old 06-12-2009, 10:12 AM
 
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I didn't realise it was sarcasm Opps!!! I'm sorry about that....
No problemo. My writing skills don't always convey what's going on in my brain.
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Old 06-12-2009, 10:20 AM
 
Location: Norwood, MN
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No the man has the longer stick in this. If he keeps it zipped up he has no problem.
Exactly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And vasectomies are easy to get. I would say about 89% of men should get one immediately.
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Old 06-12-2009, 12:44 PM
 
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Exactly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And vasectomies are easy to get. I would say about 89% of men should get one immediately.
Please tell me you are joking???!!??? How about the teenage pregnancies? Or men who would like to have children at a later stage with their wives? Should ALL of those young men also go through this medical procedure?

It is wrong to say men should get vasectomies...akin to saying all women should get their tubes tied!!!! We have to be fair here....
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Old 06-12-2009, 02:23 PM
 
Location: Penobscot Bay, the best place in Maine!
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So if she decided to keep the child (her choice, her body) if the guy makes it clear that he does not want the baby, shouldn't he be exempt from having to pay up? For instance women who have babies with diff men... Is it right for them to ask each of the daddies to pay up?
If the man does not want a baby, he should prevent that from happening, either by not having sex, or using birth control. Leaving even a small percentage to chance is just that- leaving a small percentage of possibility that an unplanned pregnancy could occur.

But I'm wondering... what would prevent a man from saying "yeah, let's have a baby!" and then once the baby is here saying "Nah...I told her I didn't want a kid and so I'm not going to pay a dime!"...

I don't understand what you are saying about the multiple fathers... did the woman try to "trap" them somehow? Whether she has other kids, by one or multiple fathers, really doesn't (IMO) have any bearing on whether the father should be able to shirk his responsibilty. Should he provide support for her other children? Of course not. For his own? Of course.
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Old 06-12-2009, 03:12 PM
 
Location: Chicago- Lawrence and Kedzie/Maywood
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What's with all the people saying it's the man's fault because he had sex?

The women had sex too you know....
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Old 06-12-2009, 03:45 PM
 
Location: Nova Scotia
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So the woman does not have to have the baby if she does not want to, but the man has to care for the baby if he did not want one? To me that sounds like a double standard.
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Old 06-12-2009, 04:08 PM
 
Location: Lynbrook
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First, just because abortion is still legal does not mean that everyone actually has access to an abortion facility. There are lots of states where it is nearly impossible to get an abortion.

Second, if both people had sex willingly then they did so with the knowledge that pregnancy could result. Both are taking that risk and all the consequences that come with it.

Is anyone suggesting that if a woman becomes pregnant and does not want the child, but the man does that she should have to go through with the pregnancy? That'll work out just great I'm sure (sarcasm intended). Then what? Where's the next legal and moral step in this chain?

If everyone knows how the legal situation lies now, then is there really anyone getting the short end of the stick (aside from the aforementioned child?) ?

One post seemed to suggest that birth control is only the woman's responsibility. I disagree. If you don't want a financial or legal responsibility, then take care that you don't get one.
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