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Old 09-18-2010, 03:45 AM
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There are millions of jobs openings in the US.

Problem is that the unemployed do not have the skills at a proficiency level that companies need.

Why do we even really care if manufacturing jobs get outsourced? I say let them have manufacturing jobs. People should seek education and skills that will let them perform high-level intellectual tasks that are much more valuable to society and the world such as engineering, research & development, and other innovative tasks.
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Old 09-18-2010, 07:29 AM
 
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As soon as we become a 2nd world coumtry all the menial jobs will return
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Old 09-18-2010, 10:50 AM
 
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There are millions of jobs openings in the US.

Problem is that the unemployed do not have the skills at a proficiency level that companies need.
Bull. I know many qualified out-of-work engineers, business people, etc.. and it is SLIM pickings out there right now. Don't believe the crocodile tears of companies whining about a lack of qualified Americans. It's all a ruse to get H1-B visa foreigners in here so that they can depress wages.
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Old 09-18-2010, 02:44 PM
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Bull. I know many qualified out-of-work engineers, business people, etc.. and it is SLIM pickings out there right now. Don't believe the crocodile tears of companies whining about a lack of qualified Americans. It's all a ruse to get H1-B visa foreigners in here so that they can depress wages.
Qualified may not necessarily mean good.

All of my engineering friends who are good, all have jobs. Actually, out of all of college contacts (engineering or not), only 2 guys are unemployed.
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Old 09-20-2010, 05:59 PM
 
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Yep;the crewam always get the high paying jobs and in a global edonomy with modern communictions the wrold is a small palce. Its more a world market for engineeers than most jobs Use to be civil engineeering was the lowest i the field but now with tehm being on-site that has changed.now.The top ten per cent of any science or math based field always do well.
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Old 09-25-2010, 05:07 AM
 
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I really don't want to believe it. I'm not saying blue collar workers/line workers deserve dirt, because they don't, but you have to be competitive, especially in this global manufacturing market. At some point the standard for line work will increase again once the world catches up, but in the meantime you have to be competitive. I have seen it mentioned that plants have popped up in the south were workers generally earn much less, but still are able to live comfortably, i think their example should be followed.

Here is my viewpoint/idea, if we really want to bring our economy back we need to buy american. Yes, buying only American will be more expensive in any circumstance, but it would be worth it in every aspect. From what i understand the Canadians do fairly well with this, and part of the reason why things are more expensive there. That said, theoretical point. While we are waiting for the rest of the world to catch up we should just buck up and take the pay cuts to become competitive. If you are happy with said modest lifestyle then great, but for many it would be a great opportunity for debt-less advancement per say. Many young people who graduate from high school have no way of paying for higher education and are fiscally responsible enough to realize that taking out a huge loan is not always a very good idea to pay for school. So working for any given plant and going to school for how ever many years would be a great way to achieve this. I'm planning on doing some sort of blue collar/physical labor as long as i need to in order to pay for my school/life in the meantime. If there was a plant nearby that i could work for in the meantime i would.

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buy american. i would love to but where? everything i find says made in china, india, etc.
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Old 09-25-2010, 05:09 AM
 
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There are a number of categories of products that are virtually never made in the USA. One is after-market auto parts. Another is clothing. If you want Made In USA clothing, you have to pay L L Bean prices. There is one textile product that is still made in USA---bath towels. How hard is it to make a bath towel?

It looks like there are still quit a few things made in Quebec. I see them on "How It's Made" on the Discovery Channel.
if you look on the llbean labels it says made in china. i know; we buy llbean.
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Old 10-03-2010, 06:21 PM
 
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There are millions of jobs openings in the US.

Problem is that the unemployed do not have the skills at a proficiency level that companies need.

Why do we even really care if manufacturing jobs get outsourced? I say let them have manufacturing jobs. People should seek education and skills that will let them perform high-level intellectual tasks that are much more valuable to society and the world such as engineering, research & development, and other innovative tasks.
Because goods need to be made in the US, by US citizens, and purchased by US citizens. When the nation continues to outsorce these jobs, we lower our self-sufficiency greatly. You increasingly rely on other nations for needs in the US. This is a dangerous game to play.

Plus, not all people can work high-level intellectual jobs. Also, to aquire the skills and education for those jobs, one now usually has to take on a mountain of debt. You cannot have a successful economy with people only being able to work white collar jobs. What do you think the end-product is of R&D and engineering jobs? It's usually products that have to be manufactured. It's much more beneficial to the nation if that manufacturing is done here, however not nearly as profitable.

Don't kid yourself here, this is about money and profits. It's not about a shortage of skilled employees that companies "need".
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Old 10-03-2010, 06:36 PM
 
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Its hard wheh the governamnt itself pushes many jobs overseas. That si why they are doing with the enrgy inductry now. Increasing oil inports,there are even more LNG ports to unload at on the coast.They already kiled the nuclear enegry programs years before while France for example produces 70% of their needs from it.Too mnay anti-business people in this country ;so why would they fight the burbening regualtions and paperwork when they can go else where. its too expensive and too much paperwrok to do business in this country.
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Old 10-04-2010, 09:09 PM
 
Location: NC, USA
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Is Manufacturing in the US Really Permanetly Dead/Leaving?

Unlikely, it seems like every week I read in the paper where someone(s) in this town gets arrested for "manufacturing". Doesn't seem to slow anything down though.
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