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Old 07-31-2009, 11:28 AM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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As far as, well guns can be stolen,
You still have not answered why do you want the Government to know what firearms I, or other gun owners, have?

Are you going to answer? If not - let us know.
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Old 07-31-2009, 11:35 AM
 
Location: nc
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I just did, if you did not understand let me clarify...we can't have special little laws for people who have guns for the right reasons, if guns are going to be out there, there is always going to be someone who wants the gun for the wrong reason...whether they want it for the wrong reason at the time of purchase or want it for the wrong reason while planning a crime. So, to make it fair to society, as we can not read into the possible intentions the person has for the gun, whether it be hunting, recreation, collection or crime. I would like them all registered.
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Old 07-31-2009, 11:36 AM
 
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As a said previously, for potentially tracing the weapon.
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Old 07-31-2009, 11:38 AM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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Well - registration of all firearms is not going to happen. If for no reason but, there are MILLIONS of unregistered firearms already - there is no way to get them all registered.
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Old 07-31-2009, 11:39 AM
 
Location: ɐpɐʌǝu 'sɐƃǝʌ sɐl
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As far as, well guns can be stolen, that's where we have the potential for good police work. The gun was stolen, ok, we would know it was stolen if it was registered yes....police then have the opportunity for investigating further into suspicious activity in the neighborhood around the time of the break-in...possibly other break-ins in the area? People who are not residents being seen driving in the area? Endless possibilities. If it is a false police report and the gun was not actually stolen, then perhaps the suspect still has the gun and if their is grounds for a search warrent maybe it will be recovered. If he dumped it, maybe he did so in a panic as possibly mentioned above. Sure, there's always the possibility people won't get caught. That doesn't mean we should not try to make laws that support we have hope for catching them.
You do know that the gun registry in Canada hasn't led to a single crime being solved, right? Not one. That's a big, fat zero.

Gun registration doesn't do anything to deter, prevent or solve crimes. All it does is give the government a list what guns can be found in what homes. Why do they need that information, if it's not going to be used for the purpose of confiscation down the road?

Regardless, I'm still trying to figure out your logic here. Your post above didn't really make a lot of sense.

Let's simplify this. I own several guns. I have a list of those guns - make, model and serial number. If any/all of those guns are ever lost or stolen, I'm going to want them back! I'll gladly hand over that list to law enforcement so they can identify my guns in the event that they're recovered.

If my guns aren't ever lost or stolen, then there's no reason for the government to have that information. If you disagree, please explain the logic behind your position.
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Old 07-31-2009, 11:43 AM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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Bottom line is - the Government has no need to know the firearms I have.
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Old 07-31-2009, 11:54 AM
 
Location: nc
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You do know that the gun registry in Canada hasn't led to a single crime being solved, right? Not one. That's a big, fat zero.
Once again, I would like to see where you found that police in Canada in the history of the nation have never used gun registry to solve a crime. I would say if anything, the difference between gun fatalities and Canada and America is a good example of how registration can prevent people from committing crimes though. Although this is from four years ago, here is a source for my opinion...if you have a more recent source or a different source that you trust more to support yours please list.http://www.guncontrol.ca/English/Home/Releases/GlobalGunEpidemicRev07.pdf (broken link) I think countries that do a better job controlling their guns, suffer less of the fatal consequences that can come from fire arms.
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Old 07-31-2009, 11:58 AM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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I think countries that do a better job controlling their guns, suffer less of the fatal consequences that can come from fire arms.
Would you favor a ban on handgun sales in the United States?
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Old 07-31-2009, 11:59 AM
 
Location: nc
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Exactly, so why not register them? These reasons are why I'm not anti-gun, if not for these, that would only leave harm, then I'd say get rid of them...but there's the purposes you mentioned above
as previously posted, no, just not unregistered ones
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Old 07-31-2009, 12:00 PM
 
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Automobile registration is hardly comparable to firearm registration. The primary purpose of automobile registration is taxation. The government wants their annual property tax, and registration & tagging is a convenient method of ensuring compliance.

Can anyone show an example of firearm registration being a major factor in crime solving?
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